so do u think the Internet would be more manageable if it were organized like u said - heirarchically?  When was the last time you used Google Web Directory (<a href="http://directory.google.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://directory.google.com/ </a>) or something similar that tries to organise websites into categories in order to find some information?  Sure... it works, but it's a heck of a lot slower than doing a straightforward Google search.  Plus such organizational structures put the onus on the user to sit and organize all their files.  If it's not the user and it's some automated script, then what is the point.  Just make the script/program more intelligent and interactive so that the user does not need to worry at all about the underlying file structure. To the user, it does not matter how the files are stored under the hood.  What is important is that an abstracted interface is provided that enables them to retrieve the information they desire in a quick and intuitive manner.  So if I want all my dance music by DJ Tiesto, I shouldn't have to go to /home/user/music/dance/tiesto... first because it is more of a hassle than just opening up a prompt and typing "dance music tiesto" and second because not all my tiesto songs might be in that folder.  He has done lots of songs with other DJ's and these might be stored under other folders, like oakenfold or van buuren.  Tags are great because they allow you to have multiple attributes per file - the user isn't constrained to put the file in a single specific category. I believe that automatically updating virtual folders based on search strings and metadata are an invaluable addition to any OS and particularly Ubuntu.  GLScube looks to be a step in that direction... -SS- <div>On 7/11/06, John Richard Moser <<a href="mailto:nigelenki@comcast.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nigelenki@comcast.net </a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Saad Shakhshir wrote: [...] > more.  It is a solution that distances you from thinking about Where you > store your data to What your data is." [...] So instead of: /home/joe/music/mp3/artist/album/foo.mp3 I have: joe's files ->   Music ->   MP3 ->   Artist ->   Album ->   Foo OR: Music -> (80 billion files, one of which is the song I want) Come on, guys, it's just more hierarchical indexing, just with more meta-data.  Taking away the real file system would only serve to make people access thing by keys, which would be difficult to control, then create more work, etc. You know what worked back in the day?  Media libraries.  You would have all these music files and videos stored in /home/joe/media/{music,video} and subdirectories for artist or album and the media library would go and find them all, index them automatically.  E-mail programs would also index all your e-mails, even though they're stored in a mail directory. I don't understand why people want to actually eliminate file hierarchical storage.  I tried to get the gtk guys to get rid of that stupid file picker; they said that you should have the few folders you use bookmarked.  I asked about when you have like /home/joe/audio/cd_collection/artist/album/ and just want to bookmark audio/ and go from there; they told me that's stupid, save the files straight in /home/joe/ and use something like beagle to find them.  Is this what we're trying to do?  Get a single directory of everything? - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated.     Creative brains are a valuable, limited resource. They shouldn't be     wasted on re-inventing the wheel when there are so many fascinating     new problems waiting out there.                                                  -- Eric Steven Raymond     We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their     cattle!                   -- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://enigmail.mozdev.org </a> iQIVAwUBRLMk/Qs1xW0HCTEFAQKYcg/9Fbg8KPo/D1EYupQlQvfqhURwZ9I+2dwt noCb8BMNitC4PqPuqUy8ZXLXYHfVNAn9SlPxmwiTXkLGfee8W6mTCDI55wJA22R2 zknhMH+PB/YrGIr5j9Y14NMH86I2FStHBMVcyy7rq66dlG7MZcOeYu8auDNH59eU HN4By+wDXNcIT4U5x0Ezc9ymoEeAr8z+82q3yxDBMd9TSH0bai6EwPC+TSl0moBt cewJEJ7vuEVCnu9XnJMCZz5LGBNiZcb4IBy2q4jWJdHwKut77g/XOHShuZ0WG7PE Isc4LvoHWrdd2bq+qU6Yc8Riqqn3lEBMY7d7eb2Wcu0gyXj8P+HZM5kH60cdiU+7 PEw4xuuUiMVWSU1JA07PitxuL1i74Jj+9cKl7jVl/td8P5QfQTEwDtlcVqQVvmRj fRuiGJzAbaISDrpIcSRrIzbyOVzPWmJvtb0KZoEjS5XuKT4RoqFEUuPrscE3m5jo GDbWGrOHFaUv6jlb/d8WHUpcI+jCJwdWSn8yxvyW1+AzH5RPVQ+YDNtOq9koZI2m bbl3Kv+FbX3FVjMRJv5kz+TBSV+gFkukI7OrkdOLzwfQNUX9ZpmekzSi7Ry3/Bzi Y2WjoGPhTYQF+pundfMJMMthkg1drOes0saviAW/qPvu7Fg+SXaZ2sJMa9WJR7AG tkwxkrXonwQ= =Qio2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote> </div>