<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs</a> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs</a> #ubuntu-bugs on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> irc.freenode.net</a> I'm also interested in helping solve this problem.  But similar to other people, I think that ubuntu-devel is not the appropriate place to discuss this.  I've started a wiki page to fuel the discussion, perhaps other people interested can add their comments and insights there for the time being.  (Or jump onto irc and #ubuntu-bugs for real time feedback.) Sincerly, Lakin Wecker <div> On 3/14/06, Michael Favia <<a href="mailto:michael.favia@insitesinc.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael.favia@insitesinc.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Andreas Schildbach wrote: > This time, I'll just post the bug numbers rather than writing a lengthy > report. From a users perspective, I can't tell that Flight 5 has changed > anything compared to Flight 2 besides some artwork. > > I must admit that I'm a bit disappointed that none of my bugs since > Flight 2 have even been touched, let alone fixed (some have been > confirmed by other users though). I am beginning to have doubt about > filing bugs to that black hole called Malone... > > However, here are the bugs I encountered: > > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28769" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28769</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/31233" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/31233</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/27202" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/27202</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/32804" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/32804</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30802" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30802</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30803" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30803 </a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/31990" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/31990</a> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34953" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34953</a> Some of your bugs are lacking critical information that makes it difficult to see if they are even worth investigating fully. To this end you shouldn't have to know what this information is or that you need to provide it unless you are asked for it. Is there an official bug triaging group for ubuntu (wiki turns up nothing)? If so i would like to volunteer some time each week to helping the project meet its goals. If not i would like to spearhead an effort to organize such a group to make bug reporters feel valued for taking the time to provide the valuable input they give to the project and equally importantly discriminate the true bugs from the anomalies of userland. One of the values that creates the sense of community in opensource software provides is feeling that your contributions (even bug reports) make a difference and improve the project. Quick attention to refine unconfirmed bugs solve 2 problems at once. thx, -mf -- Michael Favia          <a href="mailto:michael.favia@insitesinc.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> michael.favia@insitesinc.com </a> Insites Incorporated  <a href="http://michael.insitesinc.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michael.insitesinc.com</a> -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com </a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>