<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Michael, Results of try to     Run update-manager This seemed to work. ---------------------------------- then install update-manager (it should pull in new "python-apt", "python-vte", "libvte4" packages as well) and run it. I Ran.....  update-manager Run update-manager and it should offer you to upgrade to a new release. A window opened with dapper available dialog ....         I clicked <upgrade> showed downloading 33 files and downloaded one after the other but at about 98%  (6 min.)   changed to show downloading file 34, over and over each cycle about 1 second in time. I allowed this to continue for about 10 min. the cable modem showed fast blinking. then tried the menu start of  > Software Updates again, it seemed to start up normal again on monitor 1; The runaway was on monitor 2.                        A notice came up         cannot install all available updates, some updates require to remove further software.         use the function "Smart Upgrade" of the package manager 'Synaptic' or run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         in a terminal to upgrade your system completely.   The following upgrades will be skipped.                 then a list of 12 apps then Linux  (all)  locked up..           mouse caret was the only thing that would move or respond.  The window that had been on a runaway froze..     also could not ctrl Alt F2 to any terminal.. no click on any of 3 mouse buttons would be acknowledged at this freeze up time,  the  cable modem stopped blinking.     All during these events another computer still had full access to the Internet. Only a power off........   recovered in a normal reboot.    I ran from terminal ....  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade......    I got a normal full upgrade at that point except after a reboot the notification window wanted to install about 12 more files.   that went normal.. my 600 kB/ps band width was still available on the other computer but this upgrade was only using 20kB/ps ... took 8 hours to download,  then the install went normal.. I appear to have a solid install of dapper. My Internet and lan connections all still working, just had to set up permissions.. Thanks much Richard Musick Sr. </body> </html>