Time to move to Matrix (from IRC)?

Sebastien Bacher seb128 at ubuntu.com
Tue Jan 21 22:44:41 UTC 2025


Hey Robie, thanks for starting that discussion!

Le 21/01/2025 à 16:19, Robie Basak a écrit :
> It's a tough sell to ask new Canonical
> employees to downgrade to IRC if they want to talk about Ubuntu
> development[5]. It's too easy to try and contact others about Ubuntu
> developers internally on Mattermost since many active Ubuntu developers
> are at Canonical. As a result, conversations that should be happening in
> public happen on private Mattermost all too often. People seem to have
> largely given up on pushing conversations to IRC.

+1 from me for moving for that reason. I've been trying for a long time 
to keep my Ubuntu conversations on the public channels but I mostly gave 
up on IRC at this point due to the lack of 'offline history'. I do find 
the Matrix user experience quite sub-optimal compared to Mattermost but 
it is still an improvement over IRC.

> # Collapsing #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-release into one
-1 from me on merging those, I think there is value in having a lower 
traffic channel where people can be focused on milestones (today it is 
not really making a difference becasue #ubuntu-devel is quiet but let's 
hope that moving to a more modern platform will bring back some 
activity). The queuebot is also quite noisy during freezes and I think 
that would have an negative impact on the #devel channel.

That said I think we would benefit of some guideline/clarity on the 
purpose of the channels. I do think that pings to the archive admin and 
SRU teams would be better placed on #devel which is often not the case 
today.

As we mention merging channels, I do wonder if we the #flavors split 
makes sense. Often the discussions there are about changes in the 
archive/Ubuntu Desktop/Server that are impacting flavors and it feels 
like using #ubuntu-devel would be better since then we would have a 
cross-groups shared space to resolve the problems. It would also help 
having a more active and engaging #ubuntu-devel channel.

Cheers,
Sébastien Bacher
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