Make proposed available by default? [was: Setting NotAutomatic for hirsute+1-proposed]

David A. Desrosiers david.desrosiers at canonical.com
Thu May 9 11:23:09 UTC 2024


On 5/3/24 22:08, Seth Arnold wrote:
> But, I also expect very few of our users would use -proposed. What
> percentage do you expect? I'm guessing less than 1%.
>
> Instead of configuring proposed by default, I suggest that we should
> make this work:
>
> $ sudo add-apt-repository proposed
> Unable to handle repository shortcut 'proposed'

Let's also not lose sight of the fact that if proposed had been enabled 
by default with the current LTS release, the xz exposure and impact 
would have been a lot broader than it was, and also a lot harder to 
clean up and retract from.

As it was, the customer I support mirrored -proposed into their internal 
aptly during the Feb 28-March 30 window when the exploited versions of 
xz packages were resident in noble-proposed, and some of their machines 
had it deployed as part of internal automation. They had to go through a 
manual exercise to delete the pocket from their mirror and specifically 
the xz-utils packages for a daily span of 30 days of mirroring and 
resilver all of their aptly package lists to redact that and remove 
their own potential for exposure.

Let's err on the side of being a bit more cautious here, so we don't 
leave ourselves open to another possible 'adventure' that could sneak 
through unnoticed, before our users/customers are impacted. -proposed 
explicitly disabled by default has a purpose and requires being manually 
enabled, and once we flip that position, we may lose the value that 
explicit testing of packages in -proposed provides.

-- 
David A. Desrosiers
Principal Support Engineer (PSE/DSE), Canonical US
<david.desrosiers at canonical.com>
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