Potential Server Seed impact for 14.04: removal of OpenJDK/Tomcat7 from Ubuntu main

[denis sorn]

I am sorry, I actually misunderstood the question. But even in Universe, we
would still have upstream developers, this is not that bad. I also never
rely on release packages, since these are mostly outdated. I just download
postgresql, compile it, and usually end up with a mixture of packages
maintained by distribution, or repository, and those I pick up directly
from upstream. This also has a benefit that this environment is distro
independet, and can be easy moved form Ubuntu to Gentoo, Slackware, or even
OpenBSD.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:16 PM, James Page <james.page at ubuntu.com> wrote:

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> Hi Folks
>
> The first round of seed review changes have now been applied to the
> server seeds; quite a few bits have dropped out of main and the size
> of the server ISO has reduced!
>
> Next - the foundations team have been reviewing whether we should
> continue to provide OpenJDK as the default Java implementation in
> Ubuntu; this package is quite a resource drain on both the foundations
> and security teams from a SRU perspective so demotion of openjdk7 to
> universe is being considered.
>
> Most Java-ish things in main can be built using gcj; however Tomcat7
> is not going to work with gcj so would end up being demoted as well.
>
> What do people think to this plan?  Are OpenJDK and Tomcat7 important
> packages for Ubuntu users? Will not having a well supported OpenJDK
> implementation in Ubuntu main discourage people from using Ubuntu to
> host their Java based applications?  Or do users still just use the
> Oracle Java downloads instead and ignore what Ubuntu provides?
>
> Let me know what you think...
>
> Cheers
>
> James
>
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> James Page
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> jamespage at debian.org
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