is memtest86+ useful in ubuntu-standard ?

[Jackson Doak]

While my opinion probably doesn't mean much, I think we should be keeping
memtest everywhere it is able to be used. We really need to update it to
5.01 for trusty though


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Colin Watson <cjwatson at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:39:44AM -0500, Scott Moser wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:35:40AM -0500, Scott Moser wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > > > I think it's helpful for user-facing documentation for it to be
> > > > > consistently installed by default, especially since a system with
> memory
> > > > > integrity problems may have trouble installing packages; but I'd be
> > > > > happy for it to be moved out to desktop-common + server so that it
> > > >
> > > > well, cloud-image includes ubuntu-server, so I don't really want it
> there
> > > > either.
> > >
> > > It does?  That's not reflected in its seed.
> >
> > I believe you told me not to do that.
> >  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/19/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t13:54
> >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1224504
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.saucy/revision/2164
>
> Well, not quite.  Here's the relevant bit of what I said in that IRC
> log:
>
>   <cjwatson> smoser: That said, cloud-image looks substantively duplicated
> from server
>   <cjwatson> smoser: So it does look as though that STRUCTURE change might
> be a mistake
>   <cjwatson> smoser: Either that, or there's a load of stuff in
> cloud-image that should now be deleted because it's already in server
>   <cjwatson> smoser: Either way, you should indeed make the image build
> process line up with the seed structure
>   <cjwatson> smoser: And consider the future question of whether you might
> ever want something in the default server install but *not* in cloud images
>
> So what I told you was that you need to either:
>
>  * have cloud-image inherit from server in STRUCTURE and not duplicate
>    most of its contents
>
> *or*:
>
>  * have cloud-image not inherit from server in STRUCTURE and duplicate
>    most of its contents
>
> but not somewhere in between.  You picked the latter option, which is
> fine by me.
>
> I think memtest86+ is a great example of something that we might want in
> the default server install but not in cloud images; so my favoured
> option here would be simply to move memtest86+ to the desktop-common and
> server seeds, which I believe will cause it to vanish from the cloud
> images as things are currently configured.
>
> And, after all, there are already other examples of packages that are in
> server and that make sense there, but that wouldn't make sense in cloud
> images: for example, ethtool.
>
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