Potential Server Seed impact for 14.04: removal of OpenJDK/Tomcat7 from Ubuntu main

[James Page]

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Hi Folks

The first round of seed review changes have now been applied to the
server seeds; quite a few bits have dropped out of main and the size
of the server ISO has reduced!

Next - the foundations team have been reviewing whether we should
continue to provide OpenJDK as the default Java implementation in
Ubuntu; this package is quite a resource drain on both the foundations
and security teams from a SRU perspective so demotion of openjdk7 to
universe is being considered.

Most Java-ish things in main can be built using gcj; however Tomcat7
is not going to work with gcj so would end up being demoted as well.

What do people think to this plan?  Are OpenJDK and Tomcat7 important
packages for Ubuntu users? Will not having a well supported OpenJDK
implementation in Ubuntu main discourage people from using Ubuntu to
host their Java based applications?  Or do users still just use the
Oracle Java downloads instead and ignore what Ubuntu provides?

Let me know what you think...

Cheers

James

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James Page
Ubuntu and Debian Developer
james.page at ubuntu.com
jamespage at debian.org
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