Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
On Do, 2013-02-28 at 23:55 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Friday, March 01, 2013 05:50:35 AM Martin Pitt wrote:
> > David Henningsson [2013-02-28 21:49 +0100]:
> > > But still, a word of caution here. Every piece of code even remotely
> > > related to the hardware, not only the Linux kernel but also most of
> > > the plumbing layer, is quite difficult (or even impossible) to
> > > automate testing for. Even if we would set up robots in our lab
> > > looking at the screen for artifacts, talking into the microphone and
> > > so on, we wouldn't cover the world's hardware.
> > > 
> > > Hardware becomes increasingly complex, diverse, and so testing it
> > > takes a lot of time. You can't go test thousands of machines to see
> > > if their headphone outputs stopped working every single day.
> > > 
> > > Do we have a plan to deal with those types of bugs?
> > 
> > I fully agree, and this is not even limited to the kernel. There are
> > other kinds of "major transitions" like switching to a new X.org
> > server, preparing a new major Qt or GNOME release, new eglibc, etc. Or
> > we want to do a complex transition such as moving from ConsoleKit to
> > logind.
> > 
> > For those we'll need temporary staging areas which are not put into
> > the RR yet until they get a sufficient amount of testing; these could
> > be "topic PPAs" which interested people would enable and develop in,
> > which get landed into the RR when everything is ready?
> 
> For people or teams that are largely or entirely !canonical, this only works 
> if all you care about is x86 (i386/amd64).  Anything for armhf (or powerpc) 
> would have to land untested since the PPAs that are available for !canonical 
> don't build these architectures.
thats (at least for armhf) not true anymore since a while... you can
just request armhf builds to be enabled for your PPA...

ciao
	oli
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