Ubuntu graphic stack roadmap update

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at kitterman.com
Thu Jun 27 16:28:40 UTC 2013

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:08:23 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Scott Kitterman 
<ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 27, 2013 09:51:33 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
> > > > Like Kubuntu we expect to switch to Wayland in the next year or so.
> > > > It's nice to see that the various desktop environment can run on XMir
> > > > but I'm still not clear on whether there are any benefits to doing so.
> > > 
> > > One obvious benefit that comes to mind is getting the stack for free and
> > > not having to worry about maintenance. I do acknowledge that there are
> > > other costs associated to that (adopting to Mir), but in our opinion,
> > that
> > > should be less than maintaining a GFX stack on your own. Canonical will
> > > support the Mir stack going forward and we are offering help for
> > upstreams
> > 
> > > willing to adopt.
> > 
> > Have any non-Canonical upstreams expressed an interest in this?
> I think it's a bit premature to ask this question (there is validity for
> it, just the timing seems off) as things were only announced today and the
> technology is just becoming available for a technical assessment. Right
> now, only kubuntu has jumped the gun and made a decision against Mir, I
> hope others are taking the necessary time, will be looking at the resources
> that are and will be provided and make an informed decision based on that.

I hardly think following the advice of our upstream developers qualifies as 
"jumping the gun".  Nothing is carved in stone for eternity.  I think we have 
taken an informed decision based on the current status.  If things change in 
the future, the decision might be re-evaluated when that happens.

Personally, I'm not certain how viable Kubuntu on X/Wayland will be in the 
long run, but that's at least as true about Kubuntu on Mir.  We'll get to the 
long run, in the long run, but for right now Mir/XMir offers us nothing but 

Scott K

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