non-Unity flavours and Mir

Michael Hall mhall119 at
Tue Jun 18 13:52:02 UTC 2013

On 06/18/2013 08:04 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Oliver Grawert <ogra at> wrote:
>> hi,
>> On Di, 2013-06-18 at 06:13 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40:34 AM Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>>> as a member of this community that goes into his 9th year with
>> Ubuntu
>>>> and who who knows most of the participants in person, i must say
>> I'm
>>>> extremely shocked and disappointed by the attitude coming from the
>>>> community people i used to admire so much and that i usually know
>> as
>>>> pretty rational people ...
>>> Generally when I find myself at odds with a number of people who I
>> generally 
>>> consider pretty rationale people it causes me to go back and
>> reconsider if 
>>> maybe I've missed something in formulating my perspective on an
>> issue.
>> well someone reached out a hand and said "can you help me understand
>> what i might have missed in formulating, we can have a call or another
>> form of forum" ...
>> the answer was "no i don't have any interest in talking to you"
>> ...
> And yet this thread continues. Perhaps you're being a bit over dramatic yourself.  Talking is still going on, so pretty clearly your characterization isn't completely accurate. 
> It would probably be a lot easier to work out issues like this face to face in hallway conversation or over a beer.  Unfortunately, such meetings these days are Canonical only. 
> Scott K

There is no reason the same conversation can't happen over a video chat
(beers still optional, of course).  This is how the vast majority of
Canonical conversations happens these days too.  I haven't been in the
same city as any of my team members since UDS in Copenhagen, so please
don't feel like the community is being left out.

Michael Hall
mhall119 at

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