REVU, #ubuntu-packaging, and mentors.debian.org

[Scott Kitterman]

On 11/14/2011 11:21 AM, Allison Randal wrote:
>> Am 14.11.2011 00:47, schrieb Scott Kitterman:
>>> A web based tool to support publishing and reviewing packages seems
>>> somewhat orthogonal to IRC channels to get help packaging.  I think it's
>>> premature to shut down REVU until DEBEXPO is a full replacement (the
>>> most critical thing for me it was missing last I checked was the ability
>>> to give diffs of subsequent uploads of a package with the same
>>> version/revision.
>
> This was my position before UDS, and I'm still okay with it if it's the
> general consensus of the group.
>
> On 11/14/2011 03:05 AM, Daniel Holbach wrote:
>> While it would be nice for debexpo to have a similar feature, it seems
>> more worrying to me that we still advertise a process that is broken and
>> we set wrong expectations.
>
> And this is what changed my mind about the best way to make the
> transition. I don't remember who mentioned it in the session, but there
> was a pretty quick spread around the room of "Oh, this is a really bad
> experience for new developers." We're trying to recruit new Ubuntu
> developers with a first experience of being ignored for months (or
> years). :(
>
>> Personally I'd rather like to see REVU closed, the documentation changed
>> and for packaging review (or general code review) any VCS be used, where
>> you can very easily track changes in packaging, without incrementing
>> packaging version numbers.
>
> I'll propose a compromise: how about we remove REVU from the
> documentation for new packagers, so we're not pointing people there
> first anymore. The MOTU/core-dev who are still using REVU for package
> reviews can keep using it, they'll just tell their mentorees to go there.

It's not a compromise at all.  I think it's the correct solution.

Existence of a tool doesn't create expectations, it the documentation 
around it.  Update that and problem solved.

Thanks,

Scott K