Understanding the definitions and expectations of our membership processes

[Iain Lane]

Hello,

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 03:04:49PM -0700, Chase Douglas wrote:
> [...] 
> (Note: I don't want to get into specific cases, but the following is an
> issue that I imagine is fairly unique. I've used my own personal case
> here to illustrate the point, but I don't want to get into a
> conversation about my particular merits here.)
> 
> The other thing that I forgot to mention is that moving to a "trust"
> model of requirements resolves the issue that I face: acceptable for
> core-dev, but not for motu, and thus I'm not acceptable for core-dev. I
> was told that I would be strongly considered for core-dev because of the
> amount of work I've done on packages in main. However, core-dev implies
> MOTU, and since I haven't done any (well, very little) universe work, I
> couldn't be a MOTU. Hence, I'm stuck, and I seriously have no extra time
> in the day to do any universe work.
> 
> (The technical reason why I was told I was not acceptable for MOTU was
> because I did not have a breadth of experiences dealing with universe
> packages. By that, the board meant I did not have experience with
> potentially poorly maintained packaging.)
> 
> If one is trusted to upload system-critical packages and to know the
> limits of his or her packaging competencies for main, then it shouldn't
> be any different for universe.

I don't know who told you this, but it is not true.

Indeed it would be strange if you were to apply for MOTU and didn't
actually care about universe at all.

Just because ~ubuntu-core-dev is a member of ~motu (and /many/ other
teams, including hopefully all uploading teams) does not mean that you
must demonstrate interest or competence in all of those areas.

If you've demonstrated competence, know your boundaries (can be
trusted), and have endorsers then you should apply for upload rights.

This type of misinformation I think is a serious issue. I want to shout
the previous paragraph from the rooftops. It's why I don't think the DMB
has a serious problem in this area. It's what I think is at the heart of
this huge thread: the perception that getting upload rights is
impossible or that we deny good people the access they desire. I just
simply do not think it is true.

I tried to write some guidelines, at least as much as can be written
down

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess

Please help to improve.

Cheers,

-- 
Iain Lane                                  [ iain at orangesquash.org.uk ]
Debian Developer                                   [ laney at debian.org ]
Ubuntu Developer                                   [ laney at ubuntu.com ]
PhD student                                       [ ial at cs.nott.ac.uk ]
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