DMB: Proposal for a different review process

Oliver Grawert ogra at ubuntu.com
Fri Aug 5 10:35:47 UTC 2011


hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 04.08.2011, 12:41 -0400 schrieb Greg Grossmeier:

> BUT! The first entry into the Ubuntu Community *can not be* an
> application to any Membership Board. There must be something you can
> point to that shows you have interacted with the community in some way.
> Whether that be through bug reporting/triaging, submitting patches,
> working tables at conferences, helping on IRC/Forums/AskUbuntu,
> something that interacts directly with the community.
i disagree here, membership is based on a sustained valuable
contribution to ubuntu over a decent timeframe, as i said in another
thread, someone could attach 100s of patches to LP bugs over 6 months
but never interact beyond this with the community. now he wants to sign
the future patches with an ubuntu address which requires membership.
imho we cant turn down such a valuable contributor but we also cant
force this person to be a social community citizen ... what we can do
though (which brings me back to my initial issue and why i actually
joined this thread) is to enforce the entry point for this person
through a meeting where he has to interact with the community (and
probably changes his mind) instead of just having an email or bug
application to gain membership.

> I've tried to stay out of this thread as much as possible as I'm on the
> America's RMB, but I have to say, I'm feeling a little unwanted. Only by
> some individuals, obviously. But the feeling is still there.
> 
i'm on the EMEA board and work for canonical, i had to turn down one of
my managers because his contribution documentation on the wikipage wasnt
really ready ... guess what, nobody did complain (and he is member today
after re-applying) ... at the same time i have been in quite some
membership meetings over the years where we had people complain if
somebody of their locals was turned down and i have seen way worse
discussions and rants than what was discussed here ... 

if the the unwanted feeling is caused by me, please dont, i'm just a
poor idiot who can look at both sides of the fence and doesnt easily get
along with the rising imbalance, while the level of distrust against
canonical rises in the community, i have not seen the level of respect
and praise for the community inside canonical drop.

... that leaves me with a pretty helpless feeling ...

if i offended anyone please feel free to mail me personally, i really
didnt mean to, this will be my last mail in this thread.

ciao
	oli




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