Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

David Rusling david.rusling at linaro.org
Mon Nov 15 16:05:44 GMT 2010

For what it's worth, I agree with Kiko's statement.   We have three stakeholders - internal use of the kernel by Linaro, external use by distributions (such as Ubuntu) and external use by community.   We need to position ourselves appropriately...


On 15 Nov 2010, at 15:57, John Rigby wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Christian Robottom Reis
> <kiko at canonical.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:05:20AM -0200, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre
>>> <nicolas.pitre at canonical.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
>>>>> That's understandable. Now the question is why John is maintaining and
>>>>> packaging a tree that also incorporate the Ubuntu sauce on it?
>>>> I think that the main reason is that this was much easier to have a
>>>> packaged initial release by simply piggybacking on the existing Ubuntu
>>>> infrastructure.  But John's tree and mine are still separate.
>>> Ok, so there's nothing that guarantees that John will continue using
>>> the same Ubuntu infrastructure and sauce in the future.
>> I want to put a firm statement in here that Linaro are committed to
>> supporting Ubuntu on ARM through our kernel work, and that if it's
>> necessary for us to support the kernel maintenance process then we will
>> do it -- so there is a firm guarantee from me that we'll always be open
>> to working out what outputs you need.
>> I'd like to talk over the specific case of SAUCE patches, because I'm
>> not entirely sure a) how much effort maintaining them is required and b)
>> if we need to carry the Intel (and other arches) specific bits of SAUCE
>> as well.
>> I'm getting the curious feeling that the above isn't clear to the people
>> on this thread, so hopefully this is a step towards clarity.
> Kiko,
> Thanks for the clarification.  You have answered my only question which was if
> Linaro engineering was willing to support the inclusion of Ubuntu Sauce.
> John
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