New software created for Ubuntu

[Elliot Murphy]

Hi Raphael!

I really appreciate your persistence and calm reasoning, your mails are so
peaceful.

I want to fix things so it's easier to have desktopcouch in Debian. Sorry
for the big delays in responding. Ken forwarded your mails to me last week
but I was busy working on Ubuntu 10.04 release. Now that is completed I want
to help with desktopcouch and CouchDB and Erlang in debian. I like to push
code upstream whenever possible, for example Rodrigo has proposed
couchdb-glib as part of Gnome.

Do you think Ubuntu One music store and file syncing client software would
also be welcome in Debian? The same team works on all this software
together, and I've been hesitant to push any of our code to debian as I've
seen some negative reactions and don't want to cause unnecessary irritation.
Certainly that is why we didn't start with desktopcouch in debian even
though we did forward all the Erlang changes. Now that demand for
desktopcouch in debian is clear it will be a pleasure to remove the churn
you mention, maybe we can even fix those dep problems on Monday.

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On Apr 30, 2010 5:47 AM, "Raphael Hertzog" <hertzog at debian.org> wrote:

Hello,

Ubuntu is developing more and more software of its own and often Debian
reintegrates the software but later on. I wonder why you are not
integrating new software immediately in Debian:
- you would benefit from the feedback of the debian community sooner
 and avoid some packaging churn later on [1]
- even when you have constraint of integration with other software in
 debian and that you're blocked, you can have a ubuntu-specific packaging
 thanks to the dpkg-vendor framework and still share the source package
 between both distributions
- you would have some explicit responsibility in maintaining the software
 that you create

[1] I'm referring to http://bugs.debian.org/571929 for desktopcouch, the
   initial packaging is sub-optimal and the upstream developers (all
   @canonical.com) have been asked for their feedback and insight on the
   reasons of some dependencies but they have never responded... this
   sucks hard. It would be nice if this small fingerpointing would lead
   to someone reacting...

Cheers,
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