Idea: review + massive sync of Debian changes not involving new upstream versions?

Benjamin Drung bdrung at
Wed Mar 17 23:30:16 GMT 2010

Am Mittwoch, den 17.03.2010, 19:43 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:
> Hi,
> 5 lines summary:
>   For universe packages that don't have anybody looking at them, I
>   propose that, instead of letting them rot after Debian Import Freeze,
>   we instead review the Debian changes that don't introduce new upstream
>   versions, and continue to sync them (manually) to Ubuntu to get all
>   the bug fixes that happen in Debian.
> --verbose version:
> I think that it is obvious that, except for some small sets of packages,
> most of the packages in universe are not really cared about in Ubuntu,
> and are just synced from Debian, with the occasional bug fixes.
> Since we are past Debian Import Freeze, fixes made in Debian no longer
> migrate automatically to Ubuntu. As a result, important bug fixes might
> happen in Debian without anyone on the Ubuntu side noticing.
> It seems to me that it would actually result in a big improvement in
> Ubuntu's quality if, instead, we just continued to sync Debian changes
> in universe packages. Of course, we cannot just continue to sync all
> changes until the release. But it would probably make sense to sync many
> changes not involving new upstream versions, after a quick manual
> review. Mistakes will probably be made (introducing new bugs), but new
> uploads that don't involve a new upstream version are usually reasonably
> safe, and it also means that lots of bugs will be fixed in the process.
> Of course, it's already possible to do that manually. But I think that
> we could use a more efficient infrastructure: there's currently no easy
> way to see the list of packages that have a newer version in Debian
> together with their changelog entries. And submitting a lot of sync
> requests to launchpad is not very efficient.
> Comments?

I like the idea.

Benjamin Drung
Ubuntu Developer ( | Debian Maintainer (
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