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micahg at ubuntu.com
Sat Dec 4 23:51:53 GMT 2010
On 12/04/2010 01:53 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Evan Broder <evan at ebroder.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Scott Howard <showard314 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Those two data points, combined, leads me to believe that there are
>>> 400+ packages that are failing to build in Natty. Because of the
>>> Debian freeze, we should not expect fixes to end up in unstable and
>>> thus propagate to Ubuntu. Ubuntu would have to create diffs to fix
>>> those FTBFS.
>> I think your assumptions are a little off. Plenty of DDs are more than
>> happy to upload fixes for binutils-gold errors into unstable. I've
>> fixed at least one FTBFS where I knew the Debian maintainer was
>> responsive by sending the patch off, waiting for it to be uploaded to
>> unstable, and then syncing it back into Debian. No Ubuntu diff needed.
> My problem isn't with the diff as much as there is work that needs to
> be done, and it needs to be initiated from within Ubuntu since these
> are not RC bugs to Debian until after squeeze is released. I'm not
> saying there isn't coordination, just that if Ubuntu waits for Debian,
> it won't get done until after Squeeze is released because DD/DMs
> shouldn't upload to unstable unless there is an RC bug fix during
> freeze. These FTBFS are not RC bugs to Debian Squeeze (but are for
> Debian Weezy). Exactly as you said, you had to do the work to fix the
> FTBFS - which is great, we need more of that. Diff or no-diff, we need
> to do that 400 more times before natty.
> I'm a DM that received a bug report from ubuntu with a patch, which I
> immediately uploaded to experimental and requested sync to ubuntu.
> Even if every maintainer does that, there are still 400+ packages that
> need to be reviewed, patched, uploaded to debian (most likely
> experimental), and manually synced to Ubuntu (since it is in
> experimental). It is doable, we just need to be aware of it and get
> started. My point is that if we don't put an organized effort into it,
> a large number of packages won't be fixed in time for natty.
What a lot of MOTUs have been doing is fixing the FTBFS in Ubuntu and
sending the patch to Debian as a wishlist bug with the appropriate
tags. Then just watch for the package to get the fix in Debian and
request a sync when it's ready. Sync's are processed pretty regularly
now, so that's not really an issue.
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