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Fri Dec 18 02:33:18 GMT 2009
as I view it. I'm prettu sure lot's of users see it in a similar way.
- Ubuntu/Canonical choose KVM as its main Virtualisation technology.
- KVM is gaining more and more attention, especially since Red Hat choose it
as its own main virtualisation solution.
- Ubuntu wants to be Linux for human beings, which amongst others - and imho
- means it needs to maintain a full stack of userland tools for its
solutions. I think a GUI application to KVM is a part of that.
- Canonical/Ubuntu internal discussions on how "server team" and "desktop
team" are separate entities which can't manage to agree on the full stack of
end user experience are not what I call "professional support". (Imho
virt-manager is part of the server offering, end of discussion.
- I understand that having software in Universe is for most users pretty
much the same as software in Main, but again, this is a very poor argument
in "entreprise environments". At some point bugs will arise which won't get
the needed attention because the soft is in Universe.
I do apologise in advance if my words seems a bit harsh, as this is
obviously not intended.
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 31 January 2010 04:43, Dustin Kirklan=
d <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kirkland at canonical.com">kirkland@=
canonical.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Vishal Rao <<a href=
=3D"mailto:vishalrao at gmail.com">vishalrao at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> For a regular user who wants a UI frontend to operate KVM etc, what<br=
>
> are my options?<br>
> Right now I am quite forced to move to VirtualBox/VMware because I'=
;m<br>
> too noobish to work with the command line.<br>
<br>
</div>Let me reiterate ... =C2=A0I am not proposing that we drop it from th=
e<br>
archive, but merely move it from Main to Universe.<br>
<br>
We use (and depend) on dozens of packages every day that are in<br>
Universe. =C2=A0You would not lose access to virt-manager, but rather the<b=
r>
stated support for the package would actually line up with the reality<br>
I feel we currently have.</blockquote></div><br><br>From a pure user perspe=
ctive, please allow me to explain my point of view, as I view it. I'm p=
rettu sure lot's of users see it in a similar way.<br><br>- Ubuntu/Cano=
nical choose KVM as its main Virtualisation technology.<br>
- KVM is gaining more and more attention, especially since Red Hat choose i=
t as its own main virtualisation solution.<br>- Ubuntu wants to be Linux fo=
r human beings, which amongst others - and imho -=C2=A0 means it needs to m=
aintain a full stack of userland tools for its solutions. I think a GUI app=
lication to KVM is a part of that.<br>
- Canonical/Ubuntu internal discussions on how "server team" and =
"desktop team" are separate entities which can't manage to ag=
ree on the full stack of end user experience are not what I call "prof=
essional support". (Imho virt-manager is part of the server offering, =
end of discussion.<br>
- I understand that having software in Universe is for most users pretty mu=
ch the same as software in Main, but again, this is a very poor argument in=
"entreprise environments". At some point bugs will arise which w=
on't get the needed attention because the soft is in Universe.<br>
<br>I do apologise in advance if my words seems a bit harsh, as this is obv=
iously not intended.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Met vriende=
lijke groet,<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Serge van Ginderachter<br><br>Disclaimer=
: by sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that:<br>
<br> 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient"<br> 2. All i=
nformation in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such finan=
cial profit, <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 political mileage, or good joke as it lends=
itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet.<br>
3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company.<br> =
4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality <br> =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 that may be included on your message<br><br><br>"Clear your=
mind of 'can't.'." - Samuel Johnson=20
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