blueman as default bluetooth client in Gnome

ajmctaggart ajmctaggart at
Mon Aug 10 17:12:54 BST 2009

Thank you Steve!

So, how does one "clean up," these dependencies?  Or is that a kind way to
tell a basic user that it's not gonna happen?  The very fact that I can
simply write to my distro's developers and have a conversation is awesome
already; you won't be hurting my feelings to tell me blueman is a sloppy
resource hog and can't be included in a default distribution.

However, if there is some communication I can get to the blueman devs in
order to facilitate this, I'd love to.  I am sure someone would be willing
to work on some "spring cleaning," to get their package to be the default
for Ubuntu.

It's just that nowadays, users use bluetooth.  Maybe not in the days of
Hoary, but now- absolutely.  They're too lazy to grab the usb cable every
time they want to transfer a song or a pic.  They need tethering.  They want
to use a bluetooth printer, or speakers, whatever.  The point is, there is
much left to be desired by gnome-bluetooth.


On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Steve Langasek <
steve.langasek at> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:48:26AM -0700, ajmctaggart wrote:
> > Hello Devs!
> > I am so thankful for the amazing work you all do.  I am not a developer
> by
> > any means, but more an end user concerned with usability.  It was
> suggested
> > on the Ayatana mailing list that I pose my question and seek some help
> here.
> > By default, Ubuntu used the gnome-bluetooth package.  Frankly, there is
> very
> > little this package does well.  The GUI is poorly designed, and I think
> it's
> > quite confusing, leaving me to do most configurations by the command
> line.
> > I found that by using blueman instead, the usability of bluetooth on my
> > desktop now rivals what I have see from Mac OS X.  A good GUI, lots of
> > options, and a very fast client overall.
> > What would I have to do to petition that blueman replace gnome-bluetooth
> > going forward?
> On the technical side, the dependencies of blueman would need to be cleaned
> up before we could consider it by default:
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  blueman python-all python-all-dev python-dev python-pyrex python2.5-dev
>  python2.6-dev
> 0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
> Need to get 7447kB of archives.
> After this operation, 23.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
> I don't know why it needs python-pyrex, but pulling python-all-dev into the
> default install is a non-starter.
> I agree that gnome-bluetooth's UI isn't very good; I have a laundry list of
> bugs to file against it, now that it's taken bluez-gnome's place in the
> default install...
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