feisty still in the archive?

Sebastian Kapfer s.kapfer_usenet at gmx.net
Mon Dec 8 05:31:26 GMT 2008

Am Sonntag, den 07.12.2008, 21:33 +0100 schrieb Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:

> Feisty is EOL. You're risking your system by using a release which isn't
> supported with security updates anymore. I can't see what's wrong with this
> action. You wouldn't have been getting updates anyway...

I'm sorry, I probably haven't explained myself properly.

The point is that systems running feisty now have to be upgraded
_right_now_ or you can't even install a single package anymore (because
the archive has been removed).  I'm not complaining about the security
support going away, I understand the reason for that.  Instead, it's
about deleting a bunch of files which could have been left in place at
no additional effort besides disk space.

The point being, there _are_ systems which aren't exposed to the latest
internet madness all the time and can reasonably operate without
security updates for a certain time, and can be upgraded when
convenient.  Especially since upgrading a given installation of a
machine is not usually a matter of putting in the latest Ubuntu CD and
clicking on "update".  This is the case with plain Ubuntu packages, and
given any third-party software, the situation is a lot worse.
Sometimes, there's a lot of customization and testing involved.

When a "traditional" software vendor phases out a product, you can still
install it from your install media (yes, this is starting to become a
rare case).  In Ubuntu's case, the install media is the archive.
Obviously, now I have to wget a copy of the gutsy package pool really
soon now.

So again, this is not about security support, which obviously Ubuntu
cannot provide indefinitely.  (Besides, the feisty /security/ archive is
still there.)  It's about breaking a kind of support/stability that
could have been retained at no manpower cost.

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