Packaging branches which are not owned by ubuntu-dev

[Mario Limonciello]

So the use case here was going to be that someone from
ubuntu-universe-sponsors would be able to uploads in the absence of a MOTU
on the team to do the uploads in a timely fashion.  I now believe that the
only solution here is that the uploads be prepared in the bzr tree by the
team and then either attach a debdiff to the bug or request that the tree
get pulled and uploaded.

Requests to merge things into the bzr tree(s) should be handled exclusively
by members on the teams then.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:03, Emmet Hikory <persia at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Siegfried-Angel wrote:
> > There are (and I guess in the future this will be more frequent)
> > branches for Ubuntu packaging which are not owned by ubuntu-dev. As an
> > example, the Mythbuntu team maintains several mythbuntu- packages, as
> > you can see on https://code.launchpad.net/mythbuntu; I'll continue
> > referencing this case in the remaining part of this e-mail.
> >
> > This raises the problem that Ubuntu Developers can't commit to those
> > branches, which I want to solve by starting this thread. The possible
> > solutions I can think of are the following ones:
>
>     I very much don't see this as a problem.  I've reviewed packages
> for several flavours (and proto-flavours), and worked with the
> relevant packaging teams to get the packages into Ubuntu (including
> mythbuntu).  I feel fairly strongly that if a package is actively
> maintained by a development group associated with a flavour
> (especially a flavour approved and supported by the TB (currently
> including Ubuntu Desktop, Kubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, Edubuntu,
> Xubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Mythbuntu, and Ubuntu Mobile)), it is
> appropriate to get agreement by that team prior to changing the
> package.  Where an existing member of ubuntu-dev wishes to join one of
> those teams, I expect they would be welcomed.  Where a member of
> ubuntu-dev who wishes to change one of those packages but not
> participate in the team, I think it appropriate that that person
> contact the team to ensure the changes are acceptable prior to the
> upload.  The current structure of permissions in Lauchpad supports
> both of these use cases well, so I don't see any reason for the
> change.  Note that although there is currently no active support for
> gobuntu, ichthux, or ubuntu-me, I believe the same guidelines ought
> apply to Ubuntu Developers making changes in packages specific to
> these flavours: it is only polite to ensure that those working on
> flavours of any status be involved in discussions of changes to
> packages which directly affect the flavours concerned.  While this can
> complicate NBS, the development groups of each of the flavours
> (official or not) has in my experience been fairly responsive to
> engagement, and none claim packages that are not core concerns for
> them, nor for which active maintainance and support is not provided.
>
>    Further, while I support Mythbuntu, and think it provides a useful
> collection of software, it would be inaccurate to say that I am a
> Mythbuntu developer.  WIth any structure that causes me to indirectly
> be a member of the mythbuntu-dev team, LP will inaccurately represent
> me as a Mythbuntu developer.  While this may be a boost to my ego, it
> devalues the presence of the emblem for those who are truly developers
> of Mythbuntu.
>
>    Lastly, with active discussion on ArchiveReorganisation (1), I am
> very uncomfortable with wider changes to the way in which teams are
> structured without reference to the existing specification, or
> consideration of how these changes might affect that implementation.
> It may be that this change is appropriate within that context, but it
> may equally be the case that it is not appropriate: it would benefit
> from wider discussion prior to implementation.
>
> 1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveReorganisation
>
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