Announcing wineui

[Matt Zimmerman]

On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:32:18AM +0200, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 05.06.2007, 09:57 +0100 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
> > We are not talking about building wine into gnome-app-install, only about
> > enabling it to manage installation/uninstallation of wine applications.  Do
> > you feel that this would compromise it somehow?
> 
> That I didn't say. An Installation/Removal tool outside wine would be
> nice (for both of the main desktops) but right now, it wouldn't be that
> great, just because wine is far away from being stable. Chats with wine
> core devs gave me the opportunity to see what those devs need: more
> experienced "hackers" to use a debugger and winedbg to find out what's
> wrong and file bugreports towards them. With an installation tool inside
> our infrastructure, it will give us more hassels, because more people
> are not using free software, but windows software, and more bugreports
> are flooding our malone with not usable apport bug reports. this is
> something which we shouldn't want to have.  What the winehq devs need is
> written on http://www.winehq.org/?issue=330, topic Debugging, and this
> is something we don't have right now. 

Let's be clear on a few things:

- No one is suggesting that we ship Windows applications to Ubuntu users

- According to this thread, there is already sufficient developer interest to
  write an installation/removal tool.  I am simply suggesting that it makes
  more sense to do that work inside an existing installation/removal tool
  rather than creating a new one.  If someone wants to work on this, there
  is no reason do discourage them

- This is something of a pedantic point, but not all Windows software is
  non-free

- If apport is causing problems for wine, that is unrelated to this proposal
  and should be addressed separately.


> > > Please bare in mind, if you add something to g-a-i you need to code
> > > something for kubuntu as well, that we don't have a difference between
> > > the two main flavours.

I would love to see a KDE frontend for gnome-app-install.  My understanding
is that we have adept-installer, but this is a completely separate
application which must be kept up to date independently.

-- 
 - mdz