[i18n] Input Method and Fonts improvements for Gutsy

[Martin Pitt]

Hi,

(stripping CC: list)

Matt Zimmerman [2007-08-13 13:00 +0100]:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:35:33AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > Conceptually, a user (usually) wants one language-pack-* for the
> > language he prefers to see his desktop in, and several
> > language-support-* for all languages he wants to create documents in.
> > 
> > So it is useful to install a language-support-* without the
> > corresponding language-pack-*, which is why they do not depend on
> > them, just recommend.
> 
> Is the small amount of space occupied by language-packs worth the confusion
> of maintaining two separate sets of packages?  I think this is something
> which is fairly clear to us, but not to random developers and users.

I am not sure what you mean. The packaging structure of -support and
-pack are totally different and could not benefit from merging the
source packages (to the contrary).

Or do you mean that language-support-XX shuold depend on -pack-XX?

> > OTOH it does not make much sense to install a language-pack-* without
> > the matching language-support-*. Ideally there would be a dependency,
> > but since l-support is so big, we cannot fit them on the CD.
> 
> There is some debate over whether the level of translation we ship on the CD
> is appropriate.

I agree. Current CDs hardly have translations at all any more. They
are always "first against the wall" when new features and packages
arrive. I would love to see some improvement here to cover at least
our 'top 12' languages again (including switching to better
compression, etc.).

>  Ubiquity ships translations for all languages regardless of
> the language packs installed, and having only partial language support on
> the CD can give a negative or confusing impression: why is the panel
> translated, but not Firefox or OpenOffice?

This bit of course is just a lack of feature (due to those upstreams
cooking their own soup for i18n), not actually by design. As soon as
Rosetta is able to export Firefox/OO.o translations, we will include
them into the standard language packs. As I understand, we are very
close to this for Mozilla products.

Martin

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