How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?

[Kilz _]

>From: "Mark Reitblatt" <Mark at Reitblatt.com>
>Reply-To: reitblatt at gmail.com
>To: "Kilz _" <kilzzz at hotmail.com>
>CC: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Re: How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:15:36 -0500
>
>On 9/30/06, Kilz _ <kilzzz at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The amount of 64bit systems sold is growing.
>
>And it still pales in comparison to the number of x86 systems already
>in the market, especially outside of the US.
>

So you think development sould wait for 10 years for them to disaper? Im 
sure that will help solve Bug#1.


>>Your suggestion that it helps
>>few is wrong imho.
>
>Yet you repeatedly fail to give an argument why it is beneficial to
>many. Especially beneficial enough to take precedent over improvements
>that will help the vast majority of Ubuntu users.
>

Like eye candy?


>>You will deffnatly not see 64bit Vista users chose 32bit
>>Ubuntu no matter what you say.
>
>Sure. Whatever you say. If Vista is a better solution for them, I
>invite them to use Vista. Computers are tools. Use the best one for
>the task.
>

But isnt the goal of Ubuntu to get users to switch? Also there is Bug #1. 
Since it refers to computers in stores. Exactly how many computers in stores 
are 32bit? The vast majority in stores are not 32bit.

>>Once its released you will be playing catch
>>up.
>
>No I won't.
>
I know, you will be still using a 32bit computer in 10 years.

>>3d modeling is quite a popular use of computers. Encodeing is to, both
>>benefit from 64bit.
>
>3D modeling on the desktop not so much. A quick survey of my friends
>(mostly CS Majors, some Liberal Arts) shows that none of them use 3D
>Modeling sw on anything approaching a normal basis. And certainly
>never to a degree that would quantifiably benefit from x86_64 versus
>x86.
>
>

Wow your little circle of friends are a majority?

>>That you cant take a and b and look in a list is your
>>own problem.
>
>Please, this still makes no sense. "a and b" doesn't mean anything in
>English unless you give it "a" and "b" a meaning.
>
>

Thats because you came in late, read back. Unless you want to keep looking 
like a jerk.

>>
>>Thank you for admiting the 64bit version is way behind to the point that 
>>you
>>recommend the 32bit one.
>
>I see nothing wrong with that. If the majority of people use x86
>Ubuntu, then it only makes sense for it to be the best supported. If
>x86 is better supported and you have no compelling reason to use
>x86_64, then the obvious choice is x86. And there is absolutely
>nothing wrong with that.
>

Only you have nothing to say about what a 64bit system owner should or wants 
to do.

>>It proves my point that it is in need of a lot of
>>work.
>
>But it doesn't show that work should be done in place of other work.
>You're arguing in circles here. You're not listening to what you have
>been told.
>
>

Like eye candy? One joke I am starting to see is people calling edgy Eye 
Candy Eft

>> >>That talk sounds like the modern
>> >>day Microsoft.
>> >
>> >What's with the MS hate? This goes for everyone. It comes off as quite
>> >childish. "Ooo, Microsoft did A! We MUST do ^A otherwise we are
>> >EBIL!". Drop the boogy-man. It's not productive. It can serve as a
>> >(somewhat) decent guideline occasionally (very rarely?), but let's not
>> >go overboard and make it an infallible litmus test. It's especially
>> >amusing coming from a Hotmail address with MSN advertisements as a
>> >signature:
>> >
>>
>>I have had this account for 9 years. Some people I have known since my 
>>days
>>in VChat have it. Just because I prefer to continue to use it does not 
>>mean
>>I agree with Microsoft. I trust Microsoft as far as I can comfortably spit 
>>a
>>dead rat.
>
>I don't recall saying otherwise. I was pointing out the irony, which
>seems to utterly escape you.
>

Like the irony of Developers wanting to work on yersterdays technology?

>>But I still don't agree with you saying you can dictate what operating
>>system anyone uses.
>
>I still don't recall saying that. I think this is the problem. You
>aren't listening to what other people are saying.

Excuse me, you have over and over suggested running 32bit. Having a memory 
problem?

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