Proposal for solving CD Size problems

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Krzysztof Lichota wrote:
> As I was told removing all Windows programs is not feasible, maybe
> removing some of them would help.
>
> Here is the listing of sizes of apps on CD:
> 4,9M    programs/firefox
> 5,5M    programs/kdepim
> 17M     programs/kexi
> 18M     programs/scribus
> 3,9M    programs/speedcrunch
> 6,1M    programs/thunderbird
>
> I think Scribus is not an app which is often used by "average" user, so
> it wouldn't hurt to remove it. 

Just note that you are referring to the Kubuntu Live CD here, not the 
Ubuntu one. The Kubuntu version has about 68 MB of content in the 
windows section, against ~ 43 MB for Ubuntu. Derivatives will make their 
own choices on this (Edubuntu and Xubuntu have none).

As for removing some Winfoss -- we could do that and have gradually been 
doing it. For Dapper we removed OpenOffice which saved lots of space 
(adding back in some other things), though this was not universally 
popular with people using the CDs as FOSS promotion tools (like Software 
Freedom Day). The question is how much can we remove before it is no 
longer a Live CD with a collection of WinFoss, but just a Live CD + 
Firefox win32?

> Maybe a survey for Windows users would help decide whether at all anyone
> tries Scribus/Kexi before trying Ubuntu.

I think surveys of how people use the CDs are a good idea, not just the 
WinFoss stuff. How do we go about doing that? It may be difficult to get 
a representative sample when we don't quite know who downloads and uses 
it (though I agree it would be useful).


More generally about the DVD idea: If we went this route would it not 
then make sense to include the Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu stuff on there 
as well and provide the user with an easy way to choose at boot (in 
gfxboot)? That would make the image much larger than 850MB and it will 
take longer to download, but many will see burning an 850MB DVD as wasteful.

With a DVD we could also provide a lot _more_ stuff visible from a 
Windows install, live screencast demos or tutorials of Ubuntu and it's 
derivatives :)

Henrik