How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
kilzzz at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 20 14:21:12 BST 2006
>From: "HervÃ© Fache" <Herve at lucidia.net>
>To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Re: How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:35:50 -0300
>I thought the brand new Intel Core Duo was 32 bits?
>What is more, I live in Brazil where I try to convert as many people
>as I can to *Ubuntu, and you don't find 64-bit systems over here. They
>would be out of people's wallet reach anyway...
>Really, your speech is first world-centered (with all due respect).
>32-bit systems are here for a long time still.
>That is not to say that we should ignore 64-bit archs, of course!
Core duo is 32bit, core duo2 is 64 and avilable. I didnt say there were no
32bit processors still. I said there were few of them. As time goes on there
will be less. Right now the Celeron, intels lowest chip is 64bit. AMD doesnt
make a 32bit processor. Granted the old boxes will be around for awhile. But
they are becoming yesterdays technology in my part of the world.
>On 9/20/06, Kilz _ <kilzzz at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >From: Jan Claeys <lists at janc.be>
> > >To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> > >Subject: Re: How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
> > >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:16:17 +0200
> > >
> > >Op ma, 18-09-2006 te 14:28 -0500, schreef Kilz _:
> > > > Yes I know. But I also fully expect to see it will be preinstalled
> > >64bit
> > > > systems. Joe sixpack isn't going to realize it until he comes home
> > >tried
> > > > to install his favorite pirated software. Microsoft is now in
> > >of
> > > > making trusted computing a reality. Giving an even greater
> > >to
> > > > alternate operating systems. But I don't think people will warm up
> > > > installing a 32bit os to replace a 64bit one.
> > > > Not when a 64bit os like SuSE is available. Granted its community
> > >the
> > > > greatest. But its one hell of a 64bit os. Its completely multiarch,
> > > > selecting a 32bit application is as easy as clicking what version to
> > >install
> > > > in yast. Xgl is getting easier to install, by 10.2 it should be a
> > > > clicks. IMHO they see that 64bit is the future.
> > >
> > >Ubuntu 64-bit works (almost) as well as Ubuntu 32-bit. I've used it on
> > >my dad's 64-bit laptop before I bought my own laptop (which isn't
> > >64-bit, even if it's really very recent), and ubuntu amd64 worked
> > >perfectly fine.
> > >
> > >What you want is a multi-architecture system; running 32-bit apps on a
> > >64-bit OS, or vice versa (and maybe other variations). And that
> > >requires changes in Debian, which won't happen until the necessary
> > >infrastructure work is done (someone paying for it *might* make this
> > >process go faster).
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jan Claeys
> > >
> > >
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> > The last 2 emails of mine just go to show the fact that 32bit
> > still ongoning while there are few 32bit processors sold today. That
> > Ubuntu will be falling behind on solving Bug#1 once Vista is released.
> > You must use different software if you think the present 64bit version
> > "good enough".
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259314
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259224
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255015
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219545
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186568
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258427
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260241
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260523
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258045
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259701
> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258024
> > There are a lot more, I could copy and paste all day.
> > Yes I would love to see multiarch. Thanks for proving the point that I
> > early in this whole thing. 64bit Ubuntu is waiting on the insanly slow
> > development of Debain. One of the reasons we are told to use Ubuntu is
> > we dont have to wait on the insanly slow development of Debian.
> > But hey, I realise everything takes time and there are priorities. Can
> > give me a date or version, maybe Edgy+8 that we will have a distro
> > comparable to SuSE as it is now?
> > If you cant , can you tell me when we 64bit users will have a worning
> > firefox+plugins(even 32bit, the 32bit version has it), Wine (the 32bit
> > version has it), a media player that can accept w32codecs if the user
> > to install them (like 32bit mplayer the 32bit version has) , Wireless
> > support, etc, etc.
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