How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?

[Kilz _]

>From: "Klaus Bitto" <klaus.bitto at gmail.com>
>To: wyyyrm at gmail.com
>CC: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Re: Re: How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
>Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:57:37 +0200
>
>Do you think it's worth to the user spending more time and efforts on 64 
>bit
>ubuntu, or on 32 bit ubuntu?
>
>I don't think the average user will notice any difference - and have any
>advantage - from using a 64 bit system, no matter if their processor would
>theoretically be capable of that or not.
>
>Making the good 32bit system even better should do more good than trying to
>make the relatively bad 64bit system good.
>
>Just my 2c.
>
>-- Klaus Bitto
>

Just how long do you expect 32bit systems to be in a majority when even the 
cheap processosrs are now 64bit like the celeron D? How long are the 
developers going to develop for what is rapidly becoming a thing of the 
past.
Walk into any computer store and count how many 32bit systems you see. Do 
the same with 64bit systems. Do the math.
Granted the 64bit systems will have a 32bit Windows installed. But me and a 
lot of people expect that to change when Vista is released. How many people 
do you expect to want to try 32bit Ubuntu over 64bit Vista?
What shocks me is that some Linux people do not see this as an opertinuty 
and still cling to the 32bit operating system when 64bit users are activly 
hunting for a replacement to 32bit Windows.
Telling them to use a 32bit Linux isnt going to go over real well imho. 
Neither are chroots to someone switching over from Windows.
But hey who am I, just someone who bought a 64bit system and uses it. 
Someone who interacts with 64bit users all the time.
Dont think Im getting negitive, Im not. I love Ubuntu. I just want to see it 
be even better than it is now.

>On 9/10/06, wyyyrm at gmail.com <wyyyrm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I will join Kilz and ask for more attention to the 64bit platform. If you
>>check the 64bit section in ubuntuforums, you see that most of the posts
>>there are from users who are curious about trying out Ubuntu AMD64. 
>>However,
>>the majority of them get frustrated or are driven away, because other 
>>users
>>say 64bit is not well supported or is too hard to get working.
>>
>>Yes, firefox and its plugins are one example -- perhaps the best one --,
>>but then again most binaries around are compiled for 32bit. Even open 
>>source
>>ones. It's hard to expect that the average user will be interested in RTFM
>>to compile just a small program or dozens of libraries for that program.
>>Yet, as Kilz showed, we could have multiarch programs in Ubuntu.
>>
>>That barrier creates, of course, a perverse circle in which amd64 is less
>>"supported" because it has fewer users to debug it, but fewer users debug 
>>it
>>because they think amd64 requires too much work. Pretty much all recent
>>processors are 64bit that are used to run 32bit. It would be nice to take
>>advantage of that.
>>
>>Don't get me wrong. I'm a chroot-lover myself and don't mind compiling.
>>But I do believe that Ubuntu has a big appeal to the public in that its
>>packages just work. They don't have to worry about dependency-hell, for
>>example. So, I guess my question would be: what can we do to help Ubuntu
>>AMD64 get multiarch? If that's not feasible right now, what other 
>>solutions
>>do we have?
>>
>>Best regards :-)
>>
>>
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Nice to see Im not alone in noticeing that something is wrong. The catch 22 
situation is something I see every day. Even forum moderators recommend the 
32bit version because things are missing.
I love the forums and community feeling Ubuntu has. I just want it to be 
even better.

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