How long will 64bit Ubuntu users have to wait?
Kilz _
kilzzz at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 9 15:38:08 BST 2006
Hi Developers
I love Ubuntu, I have it as my main desktop. I also use it as a server. I am
also active on the forums helping 64bit users and beginners where I can. I
have written howto's on how to install 32bit firefox with plugins, and wine
to 64bit.
I have asked this question a few times. Now I'm asking it here. How much
longer will 64bit systems users be second class citizens? How much longer
will we have to jump through hoops to get the 64bit version to work like the
32bit one does? How much longer will 64bit system users be told to install
the 32bit version of Ubuntu on the forums. Don't think I'm asking for things
that cant be done. Its just things I cant do, even though I have tried.
I know multiarch is being worked on by Debian and for some strange reason
64bit users have to wait on Debian to do the development. All along I
thought one of the reasons for using Ubuntu was so users didn't have to wait
on the insanely slow Debian development process. I am also not that happy
that the expected version keeps slipping back until Ubuntu becomes
multiarch. When rpm and source distro's are already multiarch. SuSE, Fedora,
Gentoo, etc.
In Edgy's release announcement 64bit users were given a slim hope.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html we
were told of a first taste of multiarch. I cant seem to find that spec in
Edgy, can someone point me to it with a link? The more I read I find it may
not be until Edgy +2 or +3 before we see it. Is this true? With Intel and
AMD both making 64bit chips now, just how long do you think its going to
take until the 64bit platform is a majority?
Next I would like to know why 64bit users cant have a distro that "just
works" while we are waiting. Why cant we have a 32bit Firefox and plugins
available? Why cant we have a 32bit Wine? Why cant we have a 32bit media
player available? They don't even need to be defaults. But why do 64bit
users have to follow howto's to install them? Don't tell me it cant be done.
I wrote the howto's that install them. I created a 32bit Firefox .deb file
most 64bit users use. Don't think it isn't necessary. There are 24,317 hits
on my howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 . Don't say
that there was no spec, someone else wrote one long ago.
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/32bit-browser-on-amd64 .
Don't think I haven't asked these questions or I am alone in thinking this
way. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253127 and
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203182 . But I haven't gotten a
good answer. When I do I don't see anything done. Please tell me I'm wrong
and point me towards where its being done if it is.
Thanks for reading and providing Ubuntu.
Kilz
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