move the ubuntu irc channels to jabber ?

Matthew Garrett mjg59 at
Sun Oct 22 04:18:38 BST 2006

On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:29:07AM +0200, Samir van de Sand wrote:

> I know that, but in background Gaim / Kopete stills builds up 2
> different connections, while in Jabber both is realized with the same
> protocol, which makes it more efficient.

In general, moving from a simple plain-text format to an XML one is not 
a benefit for efficiency.

> Yeah, I'm aware of this issue, but somewhere back in history IRC
> wasn't well known too and at some point the people noticed that IRC
> was just better than the existing way to do that and so it became
> popular and like this happened to IRC back then now, it's time for
> Jabber.

Before IRC, there was, well, nothing widely used. 

> Yeah, there're still 2 advantages left, which I elaborated in my previous mails:
> * Federation

Is only an issue for users using multiple IRC servers...

> * Improved user friendliness, because you don't need to run any
> console commands.

Which you don't with any half-competent IRC client anyway.

It's unlikely that development discussion will move away from IRC, 
simply because the developers are familiar and happy with IRC.
Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at

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