Results: upgrade from Breezy using update-manager

[Karl Goetz]

Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
> On 5/21/06, *Conrad Knauer* <atheoi at gmail.com <mailto:atheoi at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
>     On 5/20/06, Carlos Ribeiro <carribeiro at gmail.com
>     <mailto:carribeiro at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     > 4. My biggest complaint is something that many people don't
>     value... the screensaver. The switch to gnome-screensaver means that
>     I can't preview or configure screensavers. I miss part of the fun
>     factor. I noticed it because I'm used to checking the
>     'ant-spotlight' screensaver to see how many FPS am I getting after
>     an upgrade (important also so I can check if the driver is
>     performing as expected, etc.). The solution was to remove the
>     gnome-screensaver and to install the xscreensaver, so I could check it.
> 
>     The lack of configuration annoyed me too; see
>     https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/22007
> 
>     BTW, the reason that gnome-screensaver doesn't have a configuration
>     ability is because the gnome developer in charge of it feels that "any
>     screensaver theme that requires configuration is inherently broken"!
>     Seriously; this is a good example of what Linus Torvalds was talking
>     about when he parodied the mentality of Gnome developers as "users are
>     idiots, and are confused by functionality'"

Sometimes agree, usually dont.
> 
> 
> Being practical, what can be done about that? I checked it, and the
> problem was reported about five (!) months ago. It's not a trivial
> patch, it's new functionality that must be implemented. What can be done?
> 
> a) Implement the new functionality (effectively branching the
> development of gnome-screensaver, as upstream does not recognize this as
> a valid requirement). Will take a lot of time & cause a lot of noise;

Effort is the killer here. there's noise whatever happens
> 
> b) Scrap gnome-screensaver from the install in favor of xscreensaver (it
> would be the easiest think to do, but I fear it's too late now);

X screen saver was scrapped in favour of GNOME screen saver because Gss
integrates properly for power management Stuff.
> 
> c) Instruct users (in a FAQ, for example) to remove the
> gnome-screensaver and install the 'old' xscreensaver. Biggest problem
> IMHO is that by doing it we need to remove some meta-packages: gnome and
> ubuntu-desktop, that depend on gnome-screensaver. This will probabluy
> make my life harder at some point in the future.

No official FAQ will recommend changing it, because it was changed
through official channels.
> 
> It's a shame that, as we approach Dapper turning 'gold', there's still
> such things opened. This removes part of the fun, and of the
> flexibility, and is actually a *loss* of functionality that was
> previously present. Sigh.

I wasn't impressed, but i realised i (personally) don't use screensavers
for entertainment. I use floating feet. works fine ;)
kk

> 
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Karl Goetz
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