Seems a few packages after yesterdays updates now die (such as gq) with this: george at falcon:~$ gq Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_get_depth: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed aborting... Aborted Something in gdk change, is it gq or X? -- George Farris farrisg at mala.bc.ca Malaspina University-College