Installing a compiler by default

[James Laver]

*nods* The autopackage guys can whine all they want, they aren't going
to unite linux, different package managers have different properties
because they target different people.

For the sake of 20megs , is it really worth a sustained argument? If
you can't cope with 20megs taken up, you're using DSL, period.

It will save a lot of newer users from confusion and it's nice to be
able to dev out of the box (or at least as well as you can without an
IDE installed)...

On 17/06/06, Brent Larsen <brentoboy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> >> The target audience are folks that want a "useful Linux
> >> desktop environment that Just Works(tm)".  This audience
> >> is not a developer community and does not need a
> >> compiler.  The target audience of a compiler is the
> >> development community.  These folks should not need hand
> >> holding to the same degree as end users.
>
> not having a compiler is a frequent problem on the forums, and most of these guys are not developers, by any stretch.
>
> a compiler is for installing unsupported software, not just for developers.  I dont know the first thing about writing linux software, and dapper is the first version of ubuntu I have ever installed that didnt end up needing me to compile something or other before I was done getting things just right.
>
> I'm going to be just fine if a decision is made to continue leaving it out.  I love ubuntu and it was never on there before.  But, if you are pushing for "Just works" then certainly a compiler that just works is a desirable thing.
>
> no matter who develops a piece of software for linux, tar.gz is still the only real standard for packages.  Sooner or later, developer or not, pretty much everyone is going to benefit.
>
> -brent
>
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