Edgy Third Party Package Management

Stephan Hermann sh at sourcecode.de
Sat Jun 3 15:53:17 BST 2006


Hi Lukas,

On Saturday 03 June 2006 16:32, Lukas Sabota wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I just thought I'd like to remind you all that Novell has attempted
> to solve this problem on the RPM-front with Red Carpet [1].  

Well, RPM is the package format, RedCarpet is a tool for distribution of 
RPMs. So RedCarpet is a thing like RHN or apt4rpm/apt/aptitude.
So why should we use RedCarpet when debian/ubuntu has already a good and 
reliable distribution system for their debian packages?

RedCarpet is just a nice tool to cover Novells lack of RedHats RHN in 
the RPM World, despite the fact, that RedCarpet was not developed by 
Novell, but Ximian.

> How do 
> Red Carpet's goals differ from our goals for Edgy?  Would Ubuntu
> benefit from following suit by working on Red Carpet from apt/Ubuntu
> rather than developing her own system?

The problem is not the distribution, the problem is: Who is packaging 
the software in a clean and trustable way and who is providing the 
repository and last but not least, who is responsible if this package 
is destroying my system.
ISVs shouldn't package software (package != tar.gz) and they won't do 
it, because then they have to provide at least 3-5 different packages 
for the big package managers (RPM, DEB, PKG, etc.) and after all they 
have to provide different packages for any distro out there.
We can see what happens if an ISV is doing this: Example: Skype
 
regards,

\sh
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