embedded ubuntu?

Hervé Fache Herve at lucidia.net
Tue Jul 18 13:22:12 BST 2006


My experience with Crosstool, from Dan, is that most packages
cross-compile without much hassle, especially the base packages
(e2fsprogs, reiserfsprogs, modutils, this sort of stuff).

I know Dan won't push Crosstool like mad, because he's a nice chap,
but I would, because I think it's the right way to do. I don't do
cross-compilations anymore at work unfortunately, so I can't help as
much as I would love too, but if I can be of any help, or if I get a
new job that does CC, I'd be very happy to give a hand!

I used to maintain my own tools and distribution, but really, using
the existinf stuff _is_ the right way to go. Good luck guys, you rock!

Hervé.

On 7/17/06, Anderson Lizardo <andersonlizardo at yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> Dan Kegel <dank at kegel.com> wrote:
> > On 7/17/06, Anderson Lizardo <andersonlizardo at yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> > > I personally find Scratchbox easy to use (I use it at work), but I
> > can
> > > test other tools too.
> >
> > Aw, Scratchbox is for people who want to get something done.
> > REAL men fix packages so they can crosscompile without
> > crutches like Scratchbox.
>
> I agree with you. I suggested Scratchbox exactly because we want
> something done to play with initially ;). Fixing packages to
> cross-compile properly would be IMHO the correct long term solution.
> BTW, I've received suggestions to consider OpenEmbedded[1], but I know
> nothing about how it works.
>
> > One of the main roadblocks to getting normal packages to crosscompile
> > are evil uses of the AC_TRY_RUN autoconf macro.
> > David Eggert has received several patches for autoconf which
> > would allow supporting AC_TRY_RUN for cross-compiling.
>
> How does it work specifically? Does It run the test program on the
> target/emulator? Or does it simply compile for the host and run it?
>
> > That might be a much lighter-weight way to get what Scratchbox
> > provides.  I'm talking with him next week; anyone want a copy of
> > those patches for entertainment value?
>
> I would appreciate a copy of such patches (although I'm afraid I may
> not play with them these days, college exams...).
>
> What about building the initial base system in both Scratchbox and in a
> traditional cross-compiling environment (e.g. plain
> dpkg-cross/dpkg-buildpackage or Slind) and doing some comparisons? We
> would then evaluate how much work is necessary to get the fixes done
> for a small set of packages such as ubuntu-minimal (which I assume is
> small enough to build in a few days).
>
> I can give a try on Scratchbox, any volunteers for other build systems?
>
> [1] http://www.openembedded.org/
>
> Regards,
> --
> Anderson Lizardo
>
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