farrisg at cc.mala.bc.ca
Wed Jan 11 18:59:00 GMT 2006
GNOME has been criticized for removing too many options so please ensure
if you do remove options from the menu that there is a way for new users
to get to these options and no, gconftool doesn't qualify. Users
require dialogs that explain whats being modified.
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 18:05 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Note: This is not a thread about sensible defaults, or what the defaults
> should be. It's not about what settings you prefer. It's not a "Ubuntu
> is killing children by removing features" discussion. If you want to
> discuss any of these things, please do so elsewhere. If you do so here
> /anyway/, I'll be very upset at you.
> 1) The "Window behaviour" preference application has vanished from the
> menus by default. Most users probably don't care, but the users that
> /do/ care are the ones that write nice things about us online and write
> nice applications for us to use. Yes, they can run it from "run
> applications" or whatever, but it's an important group of people for us.
> We can't afford to be obviously worse than Fedora or Novell in that
> market, or we lose.
> 2) The "Session" preference application is in the menu, despite the fact
> that the only things it's good for are (a) saving a session, (b)
> removing broken things from a session or (c) starting non-session aware
> applications at login time.
> (a) is an issue because we removed the tickbox from the logout dialog.
> It's also the strongest argument in favour of keeping the preferences.
> I'd argue that this suggests we should put the tickbox back and get rid
> of the preferences.
> (b) can be done from the commandline, and it's a corner case. "We need
> this menu item to deal with other people's bugs" isn't a good argument.
> (c) is a reasonable argument, except the session preferences make it
> awkward and nasty to do anyway. The Windows startup folder thing is much
> easier here, and I'd suggest that we implement something like that
> 3) Preferred applications should only be there if the user has actually
> got more than one choice. By default, I don't think they have.
> 4) "Menus and toolbars? Come on.
> 5) Why is "Desktop background" not part of "Themes"?
> 6) Why is most of "Removable drives and media" not part of "Preferred
> ("Automatically run a program when a USB mouse is connected"? Come on.
> This isn't stuff that should be user configurable, it should just work.
> It certainly shouldn't be under "Removable drives and media". Almost all
> of this preferences dialog contains impenetrable jargon for most users,
> and I think there's a much stronger argument for making this go away)
> 7) "Fonts" should arguably be part of "Theme" as well (which should
> really be a global "Appearance" thing)
> These may not all be achievable for Dapper, but can we at least have the
> window preferences back? Please?
> (If you're going to reply to this and say "Yes, please give the window
> preferences back", then please take it as read)
> Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org
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