{Spam?} Re: fedora + mono, any plans for ubuntu?

[Bart Vullings (OpsVentus)]

Erast Benson wrote:

>On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 15:46 -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
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>>On 1/10/06, Erast Benson <erast at gnusolaris.org> wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 17:58 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
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>>>>Le mardi 10 janvier 2006 à 11:42 -0500, Matthew Nicholson a écrit :
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>>>>>I'm sorry. i meant, to include mono/mono-applications on the default
>>>>>install. such as beagle, banshee, f-spot, etc. to "include" mono, not
>>>>>just have it in the repo's. sorry for the confusion.
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>>>>Hi,
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>>>>A part of those are to main already, the default installation is an
>>>>another issue because the place on the CD is quite "expensive"...
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>>>But why not ship DVD ISO instead? It is rapidly becoming very cheap
>>>these days and almost any PC now have a DVD drive.
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>>>We actually thinking about releasing Nexenta OS Alpha 2 in DVD-only ISOs
>>>since we want to include Sun Java/JRE, Mono, KDE and GNOME on the same
>>>InstallCD media. Though we not positively sure about that yet..
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>>You need to consider where DVDs readers are cheap and where (in the
>>world) new PCs are being sold including them. If it's in USA and
>>Europe and your user base is just there, go ahead, if not you will
>>need to stick with plain old CDs, publishing bigger (DVD) images too.
>>Debian and Ubuntu do the right thing atm, IMHO.
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>It is sort of hard to predict the user base, most likely its world
>wide... But I think you are right, plain old CD option needs to be
>provided as well.
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>It might make sense to provide two subsets of default software: (a)
>"bare minimum set" and (b) "default set". (a) must fit into normal 700MB
>CD. (b) must fit into 4.7GB DVD. i.e. lucky DVD user :-) will have an
>option download DVD ISO whereas unlucky one will stick with CD + APT
>update option.
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Who wants to download a complete DVD ISO (4.7GB)? when most of it is 
unnecessary? If we make this the default, people will think they have to 
download the full DVD to have a complete functioning Ubuntu. This could 
give a bad image to Ubuntu.
Let's say the CD is the 'standard' and the DVD is the 'complete' 
containing extra software. If someone orders per mail, off course they 
are going to ask for the DVD(if they can), the rest will use the CD and 
download just what's needed(that's not 4.7 GB).
Not everyone can download 4.7 GB, don't give them the idea they got the 
wrong distro.