2c about the development of ubuntu

[Udo 'Robos' Puetz]

On Mon, 02.01.06, Matt Zimmerman <mdz at ubuntu.com> wrote:

I'm keeping it very short, ok?

> > Well, the sheer number of problem I encounter and the diversity make me
> > think that that the resources are getting thin. I already posted bugs to
> > malone and looked up other problems as already being listed. But despite a
> > huge goal being "ubuntu on the laptop" I still see those old problems. 
> > For instance, is swsusp2 getting into ubuntu? That would need much love and
> > work but that would bring a real benefit to the users since then a laptop
> > really become more usuable. The speed difference between the old software 
> > suspend and the new one is huge! And acpi needs looots of work for more
> > machines to be able to suspend to ram. 
> 
> Ubuntu 5.10 works very well on a wide variety of laptops, including
> suspending to RAM.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam for
> details  swsusp2 is a very invasive patch which conflicts with more
> important changes in our kernel (such as the updated ACPI subsystem).  This
> cost is not justified by a performance benefit.  If it is adopted upstream,
> we can use it, but currently it does not seem like a good choice.
> 
> If Ubuntu doesn't support your laptop properly, don't declare that Ubuntu
> doesn't work on laptops; instead help to track down the cause of the
> problem.  This is what the Breezy laptop mission was about.

my problem with ubuntu on the laptop is that it actually got worse with
hoary -> breezy. 

> > As a side note, is a machine with an nvidia card supposed to be able to
> > suspend/hibernate?
> 
> I think the open source driver works correctly, but the one supplied by
> nVidia does not.  I don't have an nVidia-based laptop though.

I was seing it more generally: shouldn't desktop machines also be able to
hibernate/suspend? I for one would like that.
Cheers
Udo
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