post-install media formats wizard

Jamie Jones hentai_yagi at
Wed Feb 22 15:14:49 GMT 2006

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 16:29 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:22 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
> > On 2/22/06, Murray Cumming <murrayc at> wrote:
> > 
> > > Instead of baffling people with licensing, patenting, copyright, and
> > > other incomprehensible blather, distros need to make it easy for people
> > > to _pay_ for the things that they must pay for.
> > 
> > 
> > that doesn't make any sense.  first of all, they *don't* have to pay
> > for that unless they live in the usa.
> No mainstream distro is going to give you something that's illegal in
> the U.S. just because you say that you are not in the U.S. It's a nasty
> world and we have to live in it.

Now once again, explain to me *why* you seem to think laws that apply to
the U.S.A should apply to the rest of the world ? Mmm, perhaps we should
force our laws on you ? I very much doubt that you will like that. The
world is bigger then just the U.S.A, especially when you are dealing on
the Internet. The O.P was looking for a simple way to accomplish what we
*can already do* in Ubuntu. Technical solutions would be appreciated,
rather then flaming.

> > and as a matter of fact, even if they live there they don't have to
> > "pay"; they just have to install non-free software like realplayer.
> OK, so you can put that on the website too.
> But Realplayer should sell codecs for Totem, so people don't need to use
> more than one player.

What an excellent way to put yourself out of business. They goal is to
get the playback codecs as widely distributed as possible, so you can
sell encode enabled codecs to the content creators. perhaps they (and
other proprietary codec creators) should just implement a .so so we can
use the media player of our choice, rather like their .dll files on
Windows. Of course if they opened up the specification on how to play
back their files, it would be even better.

> > we could improve my proposed dialog by making it install realplayer
> > (or some other non-free package) on "cancel".
> > 
> > but anyway, when was my text "baffling"?  i only said patents ONCE...
> And there the baffling begins. People don't read stuff, let alone try to
> understand it.

I have to disagree with you here, people do read, look at how many
sources of Ubuntu documentation have already been created. Clearly there
is a demand because people read them.

Jamie Jones
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