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Mon Nov 28 16:23:51 CST 2005
On Monday 28 November 2005 18:46, Mike Hearn wrote:
> > Everyone is happy and it works.
> Sorry. My actual experience of being a real world upstream developer in
> several different projects is that everybody is not happy and the system
> does not work.
> More, for programs like Wine that are completely standalone I do
> not see what value this system of packagers provides. It only adds work,
> and thanks to things like freedesktop.org standards the software can be
> installed from source in the exactly the same way everywhere and it works
> just as well (or better).
Ok, if anyone has objections: Reading this, the distributors in common should
remove the wine source from their repositories and provide instead a small
package with a single shellscript which is named: /usr/bin/wine
When the user execute this script, there will be a dialogbox with the
"Dear User, you wanted to execute 'wine - the windows program loader', but
sadly the authors of this software are thinking, that we, [Ubuntu, Debian,
RedHat, SuSE, Mandriva, insert your fav. distro here], are not able to ship
this software, as good as it should be. The authors of this software are
thinking, too, that it is better for them to compile this software by
yourself, or download a binary package from their website.
Despite the fact, dear User, that you don't know how to compile software, or
that you can break your distributors package managing system, we will forward
you now to the website of the wine project, so that you are able to download
Please be aware if you install this software via binary installation from this
side, or you are compiling this software the non distribution way, you will
lose all [commercial] support options from us.
To get support after all, please write to support at winehq.com. Thank you."
I wonder, where projects like gnome or kde would be today without the help of
the packagers and distributors.
If the attitude of other software authors towards packagers and distributors
are similar as yours, I think then we can forget all about OpenSource and
creating an alternative towards Windows.
Well, even your application is then totally obsolete.
Anyways, this discussion is going away from the essential discussion, so this
is the last post of mine, because this is ubuntu-devel.
Thanks Scott for raising this licensing issue and thanks Mike for your
detailed views of being a real world upstream.
PS: Please read this with a bit of humor, irony and sarcasm. I mention this
here, because I intend to forget smilies.
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