Oliver Grawert ogra at ubuntu.com
Mon Nov 28 12:51:04 CST 2005

On Mo, 2005-11-28 at 17:46 +0000, Mike Hearn wrote:
> Your solution to "packagers introduce bugs" is "bugs should be
> reported to the packager first"? What a strange idea - why not just
> eliminate this middle layer entirely 
because upstream is clueless about the automated build system, the
different relationships, transitions of stacks and versions of libraries
the distributor uses ?
how can a distributor provide the right QA, match deadlines etc with
your proposed model ?

it takes quite some time to produce packages of a decent quality and it
also requires to take responsibilities and decisions to not harm the
distribution as a whole ... like not shipping random binaries in the
source the distributor cant fix if bugs or security breakages are
discovered for example...

if i discover a bug in a package of a certain distro, i will indeed talk
to the packager first, since he will know if the bug might be caused by
a certain library version or by the build system that was used to
compile exactly this package (or even by his decision not to ship random

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