Moving Forward in Ubuntu (Wine, Debian and Universe)

[Olafur Arason]

What my point was that most of the work would be done on the
distribution level,
because it will require a lot of work to integrate wine with gtk, but
I don't know if
there is enough interest, kde application don't look good in gnome but
I don't use
any kde programs.  
The problem I think Redhat has with that kind of work, is both that
they will never
look native and that kind of work would mean that they had to support
it. I think
Novell is committed with a .Net solution so they wont be interested in
this kind of
work, you can correct me if I'm wrong. 
My thoughts were not meant as a criticism of wine, they have done a good job at 
participating with freedesktop an the uxtheme work will help with a gtk theme.
But there hasn't been much interest after Novell desisted to implement Win.Forms
them self's.
Can't the offending api in the fileselector be stubbed, so that if you
select a gtk
fileselector, it won't change any widget.
The configuration could be integrated with gnome-app-install and other programs.

Olafur Arason

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:37:08 +0000, Mike Hearn <mike at navi.cx> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:04:40 +0000, Olafur Arason wrote:
> > But some really useful things like a gtk file selector, gtk
> > configuration tool, mozilla plug in ala codeweavers plug in and possible
> > a gtk theme would to wonders for windows program integration.
> 
> That isn't true, we're very interested in better desktop integration and
> have done a fair bit of work on it. However, we're constrained by the
> limits of the Win32 API. In particular it is not possible to replace file
> selectors because applications depend on them looking a particular way
> (the API is like the old GTK 1.2 one, you can directly poke the widgets).
> That's why the dialog hasn't been significantly changed since Windows 95.
> 
> GTK config tool - we have a Winelib based tool. I did ask for it to be
> GTK+ based when we were first developing it, but this would have given
> Wine an extra dependency when we already ship our own toolkit.
> 
> GTK based theming is possible, and will probably be done at some point.
> It's just a lot of work.
> 
> thanks -mike
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