Crash while upgrading kernel & stable releases
vincent at vuntz.net
Mon Jun 20 09:09:30 CDT 2005
On Mon, June 20, 2005 15:21, Markus Kolb said:
> Vincent Untz wrote on Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:12:49 +0200:
>> I updated one of my Hoary computer yesterday and, unfortunately, it
>> crashed during the upgrade. What was really unfortunate, is that there
>> was a kernel upgrade. And what was even more unfortunate is that the
>> kernel version number was the same as the previous one. So it deleted
>> the old one...
>> As you can guess, the result was that the computer was unbootable (and
>> still is ;-)). I know the upgrade contains only security fixes, but I
>> believe the version number should have been incremented, if only to
>> prevent problems like this one. Wouldn't it make sense to adopt this
> The package version has to be incremented or it won't be upgraded.
I was not talking about the package version, but the kernel version :-)
> The problem exists in any Linux distribution and is based on the package
> name which doesn't change and so all files of the old package will be
> deleted before the files of the newer package will be installed.
That's the problem, indeed. The problem is: why is the new package named
linux-image-2.6.10-5-686, while it could be linux-image-2.6.10-6-686 or
> RPM based distributions have a more detailed version number scheme on
> the kernel files in a package which is in Debian and Ubuntu only the
> main version.
> But because of dpkg package management there won't be any change if the
> version numbers would be more detailed.
> I think dpkg has not an interface for removing a package only in
> database without deinstalling it's files like RPM has.
And I don't think we want this. Do we?
> So at the moment you have to manage a backup copy of your kernel files
> And/or you do a double check of the kernel updates before you reboot.
Unfortunately, this is not acceptable for the users who don't want to
learn how this works. This is why I think a kernel upgrade in a stable
release should leave the previous kernel, at least until the new one
is completely installed. I can fix the problem, but my mother/sister/etc.
> Do you know how to reinstall the kernel package on an unbootable system
> or do you need help on this?
It's okay, I already fixed it. But thanks for your proposition :-)
> Why your machine has crashed? Do you have any detailed information about
There were several big documents opened in OpenOffice.org. OOo really
doesn't like big documents and can block this computer (even with a lot
of RAM and swap). Paste some really big images in OOo documents, then
work on these documents for a few hours and maybe you'll have the chance
to see this ;-).
Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
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