[magnus@therning.org: Python distutils without python-dev?]

[Ewan Mac Mahon]

On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 12:59:26AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
> Travis Watkins wrote:
> > On 7/16/05, Magnus Therning <magnus at therning.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>Then Aunt Tilly needs to find out what package contains this
> >>makefile and install it.
> >>
> >>Is this a bug or not?
> > 
> > If 'Aunt Tilly' needs to use distutils we've already failed.
> 
> So you are planning that every possible Python module in the world is
> going to be in 'main'? 
Why do you pick out 'main'? They can be installed with apt just as
easily from universe.

> distutils is not just a "developer tool", it is the standard
> "installer" for Python packages.  
Except that like most non-distro installers it completely fails to work
with the system's package manager (I don't think that's a flaw in
distutils, it's just out of its scope). Novice users really don't want
to break the packaging system this way, any anyone informed enough to
cope with that sort of hassle is more than informed enough to install
the python-dev package.

>Phillip Eby's "EasyInstaller" stuff (PEP 330?), won't be able to do its
>thing without having complete distutils support in place, for instance.
> 
IMHO the place for using distutils and things like it is in the package
build scripts; just like any other sort of build system, and it's fair
to say that packagers will likely already have the -dev stuff.

Ewan
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