Menus in Hoary/Gnome2.9

[Jerry Haltom]

Well, I think it is somewhat important to realize that I'm going at 
this from the point of a user. I am not proposing a patch. I am simply 
saying that *i use this feature a *lot** and by dropping it, and 
telling me to edit some arcane text files, you're doing me a 
disservice. However you propose to solve my problem is up to you.

How else are you supposed to add third party apps to the menu?

Also, after talking with some other Ubuntu users, it seems a number of 
them use this feature too.

This is not an insult of any kind, just an observation: This type of 
"oh well, upstream removed it, guess we will too" attitude is what 
keeps MANY people from using open source software. People really just 
want their stuff to work. They don't care how you do it, or what the 
circumstances are. You gave them a CD and they expect it to react and 
work consistantly. If a feature is removed, it was either not an 
important feature or there is another better way to do it.

I guess I had thought Ubuntu wasn't like that. Now, I realize Ubuntu is 
also free, just like Debian... so, there is no way I'm going to hold 
anybody to anything. I'm just contrasting and comparing.

On Jan 22, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Shimon wrote:

> ubuntu can use xfce 4.2 menu editor its in GTK+ it uses the same
> freedesktops standard and has tons of features
> <img src="http://de.lunar-linux.org/xfce4/screenshots/snap_VII.jpg">
> it in the background in this picture
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:06:59 +0100, Magnus Therning 
> <magnus at therning.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:20:53AM -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote:
>>> It was my belief that Ubuntu simply used Gnome's code to make a kick
>>> ass distribution, not that they were bound by every stupid thing 
>>> Gnome
>>> did.  Witness the menus in Warty which are not standard 2.8 menus.
>>
>> I think the patch for the menus in Warty is minor, i.e. they are a 
>> patch
>> to change the items in the menu. What you are proposing is a patch 
>> that
>> replaces all the code that handles the menus. The difference is
>> substantial.
>>
>> I don't think the Ubuntu maintainers are too interested in maintaining
>> patches of the size you are proposing (porting the old menu-system to
>> the newer version of GNOME). At the same time they don't want to lag 
>> too
>> far behind the GNOME release schedule. There's a conflict here, and I
>> for one believe that Ubuntu makes the right trade-off.
>>
>> /M
>>
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