further testing of hoary daily (live, upgrade & install)

Matt Zimmerman mdz at ubuntu.com
Thu Feb 24 10:33:14 CST 2005


On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 11:59:55PM +0000, James Troup wrote:

> Generic problems with Live CD
> -----------------------------
> 
>  . Usual "No sound hardware" ERROR-ERROR-ERROR dialog reported yesterday
>    [Repeated here to qualify the 'all good's below]

Jeff, Sebastien?  What can we do to make this smarter?

>  - Start of boot-up says: "* version 2.86 booting" - which is mildly
>    confusing.

This should be correctable by adding 'quiet' to the default boot parameters
on the CD.  This would probably necessitate some additional progress output
from d-i startup so that the user knows the system is OK and coming up.


>  - "Get video state buffer size failed
>     Save video state failed"
> 
>    on every boot - mjg59 says this is harmless and because the servers
>    unsurprisingly lack a VESA BIOS.  Might be nice to a) LSB-ize them
>    (for consistency, if nothing else) and/or b) convert them to
>    something less newbie scary?

Both a) and b), I'd say.

> Live CD Test on HP Proliant DL380 G4
> ------------------------------------
> 
>  - X comes up in 1280x1024 which makes the monitor unhappy (bizarrely
>    it displays the screen but with a slow floating box saying
>    "Resolution out of range").  xresprobe thinks the monitor is a CRT.
>    Config, trace files etc. at:
> 
>      http://people.ubuntu.com/~james/paste/broken/
> 
>    Maybe the autoconfig stuff could blacklist this type of KVM?

Daniel?

>  - Also noticed: xresprobe a) doesn't know about -h/--help, b) doesn't
>    have a manpage, c) is unuseful when you run it as non-root.

Bug (though a low-priority one at this stage).

> Upgrade test (powerpc)
> ----------------------
> 
>  - Lots of scary or irrelevant NEWS items, e.g. alsa-lib (gives you a
>    patch!), bogofilter (should be versioned checked), firefox,
>    gnome-volume-manager (we've always used pmount) etc.
> 
>    I think these may need audited for suitability and branding?
> 
>    Though, I later discovered this to be not nearly as important as I
>    first thought since apt-listchanges is only in Supported, not
>    installed by default.

Right; we would need to think through a feature like this before enabling it
by default; certainly the existing changelog.Debian and NEWS.Debian stuff is
not generally useful to those who are not working on the distribution.

>  - Warning messages from apt-listchanges about data.tar.bz2 .debs.
>    Yay for well planned transitions :-P </bitter>

I think that folk will survive without seeing the diveintopython changelog.
:-P

>  - Got prompted by a bunch of packages (gimp, udev, hal, pbbuttonsd
>    and dovecot) about a bunch of config files I know haven't been
>    touched on this box.  They didn't look like the usual 'a conffile
>    moved and dpkg now thinks the user needs prompted about it' stuff
>    either.

So the correct action was 'Y' in all cases?

> - The (amount of) locales that you get with the English language pack
>   (is/)are insane.  Given that the installer knows exactly which
>   variant of English I'm using, it'd be nice if the language pack
>   could be a little less scattershot about it.  Alternatively if
>   locale-gen wasn't insanely slow, maybe I'd care less.

Given that it's purely a performance issue, I think it would be best to
leave it as-is for Hoary, and deal with it later.

> - yaboot help text only mentions 'expert' not 'server'
> 
> - No software raid love from the partitioner for powerpc.
> 
> - 'server' mode still tries to register documents and (of course)
>   fails due to lack of scrollkeeper.

The first and last of these I believe are fixed, based on hoary-changes
traffic.  Is the second as well?

-- 
 - mdz



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