java jvm/jdk

Fábio Mendes niels_bohr at uol.com.br
Sun Nov 7 15:05:28 CST 2004


Em Dom, 2004-11-07 às 12:06 -0800, Matt Zimmerman escreveu:
> On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:33:12PM -0600, Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
> 
> > i responded to this earlier today, but it appears my message got
> > caught up in some mailman admin queue because of the size of the attached
> > license file. for those interested, i've put the license online at 
> > http://kapil.objectrealms.net/IBM-J1.4
> 
> That license seems to explicitly prohibit giving a copy of the program to
> someone else.  You may only make backup copies, or transfer the license
> entirely to someone else.
> 
I was told that mandrake ships it's distro with java and flash
pre-installed. I don't know if they're violating the licence or came in
agreement with macromedia/sun or ibm. Obviously Ubuntu can't as an
international organization, violate those agreements, even if in some
countries it would be ok, but I think an agreement with sun or ibm is
not fantasy and should be tried. Let's be political, will Canonical make
an exception to it's distribution policy to let a proprietary java VM
get in? In which terms?

Fabio

> > You may transfer a Program and all of Your license rights and obligations
> > to another party only if that party agrees to the terms of this Agreement.
> > When You transfer the Program, You must also transfer a copy of this
> > Agreement, including the Program's PoE. After the transfer, You may not use
> > the Program.
> 
> > Authorization for Use on Home/Portable Computer: 1
> >
> > Authorization for Use on Home/Portable Computer:
> > "1" means that the Program may be stored on the primary machine and another
> > machine, provided that the Program is not in active use on both machines at
> > the same time.
> 
> 
> > that gentoo page is out of date. it used to be the case, but as of ibm-jdk
> > 1.4 gentoo does distribute the jdk via its mirrors. i've attached the
> > license for the jdk (also distributed w/ gentoo). whether this is the
> > basis of distribution or if they've come to an agreement with ibm, i don't
> > know.
> 
> If you can find references to any discussion on the matter, and how they
> arrived at the conclusion that they could redistribute this software, I
> would be interested.
> 
> -- 
>  - mdz
> 



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