<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Thank you for replies Ralf, Gunnar, Oliver, Dmitry, Alberto!<br><br><br>>On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>>You may want to upgrade further to 16.04 or 17.04 (if this is not a typo).<br>
</div><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">I upgraded my 12.04 to 16.04, not 14.04. It was a typo. I'm sorry.<br><br>></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">A better mailing list for questions related to GNOME Flashback sessions would<br>>be <a href="mailto:gnome-flashback-list@gnome.org" target="_blank">gnome-flashback-list@gnome.org</a><wbr>. But in this case I will help you here too.<br>
</span></div><div><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">GNOME community seems to be unfriendly.<br></span></div><div><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im"><br>></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>></span>It is possible. I have just tested the Ubuntu 16.04.2 live image and setting<br>
the “Switch to next source” to “Alt+Shift L” in unity-control-center works<br>
for me.<br></div>It works in Unity session, but not in GNOME FlashBack. Shortcut is set, but not usable.<br></div><div>Even with modifier only shortcut.<br></div><div>It seems that unity-control-center was called from indicator-keyboard (did right click on it, then Text Entry Settings...)<br></div><div><br><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span>>It should be already fixed. Please test if it occurs in Ubuntu 17.04.<br></div>I prefer to use LTS versions of Ubuntu.<br><br><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span></div>>From testing the same Ubuntu 16.04.2 live image: if I type “apt-get install<br>>gnome-session-flashback”, nothing pulls in gnome-control-center.<div>I tried from mini.iso. It seems that indicator-bluetooth requires unity-control-center.<br></div><div>I just tried to install gnome-session-flashback on Ubuntu MATE 16.04. <br>It has both unity-control-center and gnome-control-center. I'm able to set <Alt+Shift>, but it does not work.<br></div><div><br><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">></span><span class="m_-8421129785573407712m_-5146126211304809150gmail-m_6125006529374676310m_2255723168683793234m_-3550529104189433015gmail-im">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Dmitry Shachnev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitya57@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">mitya57@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span>>I think it will receive only critical fixes, like Unity itself. Do not expect<br>
>any new features there.<br></div><div>OK, I understood.<br><br><br></div><div>Below is my opinion on current problems of keyboard layout switching. I say about GNOME FlashBack sessions, not Unity.<br><br>I sincerely don't understand what you in Ubuntu (or GNOME - I
don't know precisely) have done with layout switching.<br>In previous 12.04 LTS version it works normally in all desktop environments. Why? <br>It is possible that there were no unity-control-center fork and indicator-keyboard was not invented.<br>By the way in MATE desktop environment it works (even in modern 1.12 and 1.16). <br><br>Many of us use two keyboard layouts in Windows.<br>Which keyboard shortcut is used here for switching layouts?<br>In XP it was <Ctrl+Shift> or <Alt+Shift>. Some users prefer both right <Shift> and left <Shift>.<br>In Windows 7 and 8.1 it is still possible to use these shortcuts.<br><br>I understand that many developers adore Apple products and take good and bad ideas from them.<br>In my opinion <Super+Space> is not good keyboard shortcut for layout switching when working with long bilingual texts.<br>But why conventional layout switching is broken?<br>And what is interesting, ubiquity installer sets <Alt+Shift> (XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_tog<wbr>gle,grp_led:scroll" in /etc/default/keyboard, see <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270574" target="_blank">bug 1270574</a>).<br>Why
it is done so? It's strange. In installer <Alt+Shift> was set, but
GUI sessions use <Super+Space>. What is the reason for such a
mess?<br><br>Do you remember hottest <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218322" target="_blank">bug 1218322</a> (1010 are affected)? <br></div><div>Problems are not solved after 4 years. Is it normal?<br></div><div><br>My
colleagues use <Ctrl+Shift>, but this shortcut can't be used
because of interference with other shortcuts started with
<Ctrl+Shift+> (for example,
<Ctrl+Shift+T>) - see <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1245473" target="_blank">bug 1245473</a>. In Unity this combination may be used but it creates visual problems for user (for example, <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1687588" target="_blank">selected text is blinking</a> while using <Ctrl+Shift+arrow>).<br><div><br><br></div>I sincerely ask you to pay attention to keyboard layout switching problems.<br></div><br><div><br></div><div>With best regards,<br></div><div>Norbert.</div></div>