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The vast majority of consumer boxes run Windows because of
Microsoft's bundling deal with the manufacturers. It's nothing
really to do with Windows performance or ease of use (both of which
are poor). It's just that Mr./Ms. Everyday User doesn't really know
much about computers, plugs the box in, and just uses what's
presented to him/her.<br>
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"Just works" is a fantasy. There's plenty of Windows programs which
don't "just work" -- I spend my days bouncing from one Windows box
to another, trying to iron out small bugs or teach panicky users
simple tasks. Most people can't set up a wireless router or
configure a wireless printer, so Linux is a planet away.
Linux-based distributions are still heavily reliant on the cli, and
must remain so. We shouldn't give up the robustness of bash work so
that linux desktop environments may mimic a dysfunctional
proprietary OS.<br>
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Jordan<br>
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On 10/05/2016 08:59 AM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Moreover, I think that Linux has come a long way
and gained much maturity on the server and enterprise side,
thanks to parallel efforts of "Canonical" and "RedHat" (and
"Google").
<div>The sector which Linux has long way to go is Desktop /
Laptop and daily computing. Why do you think people prefer to
use Windows or MacOS? That's what needs to be improved in
Linux. Standardized things, at least for a distro. Lots of
customization available, but it should work out of the box. My
dad would not like to go in depth about synaptic and libinput
stuff, or the free/proprietary stuff. Things need to work like
a charm, at least to the maximum extent we can provide. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 6:23 PM Himanshu Shekhar
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:himanshushekharb16@gmail.com">himanshushekharb16@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I appreciate Xen's first
response stating how things go on in Windows and Apple.
<div class="gmail_msg">I know that snaps and containers are
very different things and function differently. </div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">I was less concerned about snaps
coming to Ubuntu, than two standards, namely Snaps and
Flatpak coming to Linux. </div>
<div class="gmail_msg">Both are good in their intentions but
they would again lead to confusion, they way we have
today. </div>
<div class="gmail_msg">Snaps/Flatpaks are intended to make
applications distro-independent and unify Linux
development. However, two things for the same task would
again cause confusion about which to use / what will
become the de-facto standard. </div>
<div class="gmail_msg">**REPEAT** This reminds me of the
state of Upstart, which after much development was
replaced by systemd **REPEAT**</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">I repeat that my concerns are
Snaps/Flatpak and Wayland/Mir, not which of them is
better. (I didn't start this thread to debate which is
better). </div>
<div class="gmail_msg">It is true that XServer is old and
desktop/GUI computing has come a long way than the
client-server model.</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">I was eager to know how they are
different, and how things in future are planned to be, as
the current state of development branches in Linux make me
feel like the chaotic scenario between distributions,
packaging and graphics server would continue for long. </div>
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<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Regards <br
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<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">
Himanshu Shekhar</p>
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<p dir="ltr">Regards <br>
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<p dir="ltr">
Himanshu Shekhar</p>
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