<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Part of the problem you're having in this discussion is that Ubuntu developers don't develop Unity. It's a separate project within Canonical that operates much like any upstream does. The distribution developers have some influence and do, in some cases, contribute to it, but it's not primarily their work. If you're trying to reach the driving minds behind Unity, this isn't the right place. There is a mailing list, called unity-design or some similar title that might be better. Scott K </blockquote></div> That's very good to know; thanks, Scott. It's also heartening to hear that it's not the Ubuntu devs (for whom I generally have a lot of respect) who are pushing this madness forward, but people who are working directly for Canonical--rather than simply being directed by canonical. I apologize to any developers toward whom I've been unjustly been harsh. My previous criticisms of certain denizens of this list stand, but at least now it's clear that most of the Unity "culprits" are elsewhere. Thanks for the clarification. --Dane